This source collates Neville's repeated first-person accounts: he retired normally at the Sir Francis Drake Hotel and at about 4:00 a.m. awoke within his skull, emerged as from a tomb, and encountered the swaddled infant.
The residence chronology independently places Neville at the Sir Francis Drake Hotel for his 20 July 1959 awakening.
Date (happened)
20 July 1959
stated · preferred
20 July 1959
stated · probable
Source
phase-2 canonical event (fingerprint references)
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20 July 1959
stated
Source
"on July 20, 1959", told in Tribute Margaret Ruth Broome October 28 April 16 Goddards Student (nid 2039)
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between 20 July 1959 and 1 January 1963
stated
20 July 1959
stated
Reasoning
Neville twice explicitly gives the morning of 20 July 1959 for the first sign, his resurrection and birth from above.
20 July 1959
stated
Why
Sir Francis Drake Hotel, San Francisco.
Reasoning
The work consistently identifies Neville's resurrection/birth-from-above at about 4:00 a.m. in the Sir Francis Drake Hotel; publication chrome is excluded.
20 July 1959
stated · probable
Why
Retrospective student account.
Reasoning
Broome explicitly dates Neville's tomb-and-skull awakening account to San Francisco on July 20, 1959.
20 July 1959
stated · probable
Why
San Francisco.
Reasoning
The page directly identifies the Sir Francis Drake Hotel awakening date; its own general discrepancy warning supports probable confidence.
20 July 1959
stated
Why
Direct first-person date statement.
Reasoning
Neville directly attaches the exact date and city to the night his resurrection experience began; surrounding passages describe the emergence and birth symbolism as the same event.
before 1969
bound · possible
Source
qualifying source passages 539774; telling lecture nids 1441
Reasoning
Qualifying passage ids [539774] belong to telling lecture nids [1441]. Each listed lecture contributes the selected safe envelope year 1969 (MAX of its non-refuted delivery years); 1969 is the MIN across telling lectures.
c. July 1959
stated · possible
Source
biography_mysticism.md — "canonical birth-from-above account Neville dates to July 1959 (often Sea Cliff / 20 minutes)"
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between July 1959 and 22 February 1966
stated
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before 1959
stated · probable
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20 July 1959
stated
Why
Does not adjudicate the corpus's separate, pre-existing July 20 vs July 21 tension (d9 vs d2/d3/passage 529140); it only corrects d14's own misreading of its cited passage.
Reasoning
The existing d14 claim from this same passage records 1959-07-19, but the passage's own words date the experience itself to 'the morning of July the 20th 1959, this is what happened'; the '19th' in the next sentence ('On Sunday - this was the 19th, a friend of mine joined me for an early dinner') names the preceding Sunday evening, not the date of the experience. This corrects d14's misreading and is independently consistent with certain claim d9 (passage 538637, 'On July 20 of the year 1959') and with passage 551008 in Hidden Secret God ('mine was on the 20th of July of '59').
July 1959
stated · probable
Source
derived from the event's own title: "Neville realizes the Promise in July 1959"
Reasoning
The event held NO date claim of any kind; its own title states 1959-07 (month precision, parsed as "month year"). ⚠ A title in this corpus is a DERIVED artefact — an earlier pass wrote it from the passage text — so this claim is title-derived and is marked as such rather than cited as a source document; the underlying text remains the real evidence and would supersede it. Confidence `probable`, never `certain`, for that reason. Precision is never inflated beyond the title's own wording. CALIBRATION (run v1.1/l1.4/titledate, against the 489 events that already hold an independent preferred date): day 96.1%, month 94.1% agreement. Titles naming a REFERENCE event rather than the event itself ("before", "after", "during the week of", "per ... lecture") are refused outright and never reach this write — reading an anchor as the date is the same laundering phase3b committed when it wrote telling dates onto events.
July 1959
estimated
Source
Passage 556749 says the Promise occurred twelve years ago in the coming month; lecture date is 1971-06-21.
Reasoning
The month after June 1971 is July; subtracting twelve years gives July 1959. This witness does not state a day.
before 1959
bound · possible
Reasoning
Qualifying passage ids [529158] belong to telling lecture nids [1059]. Each listed lecture contributes the selected safe envelope year 1959 (MAX of its non-refuted delivery years); 1959 is the MIN across telling lectures.
before 1967
bound · possible
Reasoning
Qualifying passage ids [536848] belong to telling lecture nids [1314]. Each listed lecture contributes the selected safe envelope year 1967 (MAX of its non-refuted delivery years); 1967 is the MIN across telling lectures.
before 15 December 1967
bound
Why
Tightens the phase4 L6a envelope from before 1967 to before 1967-12-15.
Reasoning
L6a envelope tightened to the telling day of nid 1314 (certain delivery 1967-12-15); same premise, finer precision. The phase4 L6a bound on this event is `before 1967`, an envelope over delivery YEARS computed without reading text. Its premise is that the fact is true by the time it is told; on that same premise the DAY of the telling is a strictly better upper bound. Nothing is re-decided — the bound is stated to the precision the evidence always supported. The delivery claim for 1967-12-15 on nid 1314 is held at `certain` by the corpus, which is what carries this claim. #2274; the L6a row stands beside this one.
c. 20 July 1959
estimated · probable
Why
M7 dating pass (529; 525's readers, packet 017)
Reasoning
Passage 536848: the birth of the child 'when it happened in me', three brothers present, the youngest (Lawrence) 'a few years later' departing. Lawrence was dying in mid-1966 (18616). In passage 536938 he says the birth from above happened 'the 20th of July with me', and the chronology places that on 1959-07-20 (875, 1274). Identification of the two rests on both being the birth of the child.
before 1969
bound · possible
Reasoning
Qualifying passage ids [540140] belong to telling lecture nids [1454]. Each listed lecture contributes the selected safe envelope year 1969 (MAX of its non-refuted delivery years); 1969 is the MIN across telling lectures.
before 23 May 1969
bound
Why
Tightens the phase4 L6a envelope from before 1969 to before 1969-05-23.
Reasoning
L6a envelope tightened to the telling day of nid 1454 (certain delivery 1969-05-23); same premise, finer precision. The phase4 L6a bound on this event is `before 1969`, an envelope over delivery YEARS computed without reading text. Its premise is that the fact is true by the time it is told; on that same premise the DAY of the telling is a strictly better upper bound. Nothing is re-decided — the bound is stated to the precision the evidence always supported. The delivery claim for 1969-05-23 on nid 1454 is held at `certain` by the corpus, which is what carries this claim. #2274; the L6a row stands beside this one.
20 July 1959
estimated · probable
Why
M7 dating pass (529; 525's readers, packet 025)
Reasoning
Passage 540140 describes the resurrection: 'I am the one who awoke... it was God who awoke... I came out... God is born.' Passage 545799 calls it 'my resurrection and birth from above', and the chronology dates that to 20 July 1959 (1274 and many siblings).
before 1963
bound · probable
Reasoning
Neville explicitly says he awoke in the sepulcher of his skull and was resurrected; the completed experience predates the telling.
20 July 1959
estimated · probable
Why
M7 dating pass (529; 525's readers, packet 005)
Reasoning
Passage 545027: 'I awoke to find myself in the sepulcher of my skull ... I was resurrected from the dead.' This is the resurrection of 1959-07-20 (1274), and 18830 dates the four mystical events from that day. The passage names no date; probable.
19 July 1959
stated · refuted
Why
pm-actor-525: CloudThree H001 (judge + check): 'The night of the 19th' is when he went to bed; the awakening was at about 4 a.m. on Monday the 20th. The eve, not the day of the event.
19 July 1959
stated · refuted
Why
pm-actor-525: CloudThree H001 (judge + check): 'Went to sleep ... on the night of the 19th of July' is again the eve. Same passage tells 'the 20th of July, twelve years ago' as the day.
20 January 1969
stated · refuted
Reasoning
Refuted: a transposition of 1959-07-20. Seventeen deltas on this same event attest 20 July 1959 from seventeen different lectures; Neville was not awakened in January 1969.
6 December 1959
stated · refuted
Why
pm-actor-525: CloudThree H001 (judge + check): 'Five months later' is David's appearance on 6 Dec 1959, a separate later event (139 days after), not the birth from above.
between 1934 and 1959
stated · refuted
Why
pm-actor-525: CloudThree H001 (judge + check): 'I have taught the Bible for 25 years' measures his teaching career, not when the birth from above happened.
21 July 1959
stated · refuted
Why
pm-actor-525: CloudThree H001 (judge + check): Early (Sept 1959) telling 'July 21st' (The Second Vision); every later telling and Neville's own 139-day count (20 July to 6 Dec 1959) give the 20th. Outlier or slip, not a second event.
21 July 1959
stated · refuted
Why
pm-actor-525: CloudThree H001 (judge + check): 'July 21st of this year' (Esau and Jacob, Nov 1959) repeats the same early 21st outlier; the 20th is attested by about 17 lectures over 1963-1971 and by the residence and 4 a.m. Monday details (20 July 1959 was a Monday).
1905
stated · refuted
Why
pm-actor-525: CloudThree H001 (judge + check): His physical birth year, an aside in the lecture. The packet already carries a refuted twin (delta 16) but delta 10 still stands as certain.
19 July 1959
stated · refuted
Why
pm-actor-525: CloudThree H001 (judge + check): Misreads the passage: 'On Sunday, this was the 19th' is the dinner and the open SF meeting the day before; the same passage says 'the morning of July the 20th 1959, this is what happened'.
1905
estimated · refuted
Reasoning
This clause is Neville's aside about his own physical birth year (already established at hist_event 950, 1905-02-19), spoken while explaining the birth-from-above allegory, not a statement about when the birth-from-above experience itself happened; the existing d10 claim treats it as a happening-date for this event, which is a mis-extraction, and is refuted.
1929
stated · refuted
Source
"in 1929", told in Sharing in Creativity (nid 1365)
Why
pm-actor-525: CloudThree H001 (judge + check): 'I was called and sent in 1929. Thirty years later I experienced the birth from above': 1929 is the Call (the Divine Assembly vision), not this event.
Told / reported
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8 March 1971
stated · doubtful
8 March 1971
stated · doubtful
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21 December 1967
stated · possible
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7 May 1963
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after 20 July 1959
stated · probable
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26 July 1968
stated
Reasoning
Passages 551215 and 551220 belong to lecture 1999, independently dated 1968-07-26 by recovered extraction evidence and a lecture advertisement.
1960
stated
Reasoning
Passage 552939 belongs to lecture 2087; recovered LP title and caption independently establish only the year 1960.
8 March 1971
stated · doubtful
Why
Corrects the confidence of the told claim written by run `corpus v1 / phase3b` at delta 3 on this event; that claim is left standing per append-only. Ceiling rule #2132.
Reasoning
Confidence only; the date is not re-adjudicated and is left exactly as written. This claim is derived from the delivery claims of node 1155 and asserts `certain`, but the strongest claim that node carries is `probable`, so there is nothing for `certain` to inherit from. nid 1155 delivery claims: 1964-4-3 doubtful; 1971-3-8 doubtful; 1970-1-1 probable. Walked back to `probable`, the ceiling. Whether the DATE is right is a separate question this row does not touch; if the evidence turns out to support more confidence, it will have to come from a source other than this node.
21 December 1967
stated · possible
Why
Corrects the confidence of the told claim written by run `corpus v1 / phase3b` at delta 8 on this event; that claim is left standing per append-only. Ceiling rule #2132.
Reasoning
Confidence only; the date is not re-adjudicated and is left exactly as written. This claim is derived from the delivery claims of node 1316 and asserts `certain`, but the strongest claim that node carries is `probable`, so there is nothing for `certain` to inherit from. nid 1316 delivery claims: 1967-12-21 possible; 1967-12-1 probable. Walked back to `probable`, the ceiling. Whether the DATE is right is a separate question this row does not touch; if the evidence turns out to support more confidence, it will have to come from a source other than this node.
7 May 1963
stated · probable
Why
Corrects the confidence of the told claim written by run `corpus v1 / phase3b` at delta 15 on this event; that claim is left standing per append-only. Ceiling rule #2132.
Reasoning
Confidence only; the date is not re-adjudicated and is left exactly as written. This claim is derived from the delivery claims of node 1909 and asserts `certain`, but the strongest claim that node carries is `probable`, so there is nothing for `certain` to inherit from. nid 1909 delivery claims: 1963-5-7 probable; 1963-5-5 probable. Walked back to `probable`, the ceiling. Whether the DATE is right is a separate question this row does not touch; if the evidence turns out to support more confidence, it will have to come from a source other than this node.
28 February 1969
estimated · probable
Why
Lane L7 (#2354) re-derivation. Supersedes in substance, not in storage, the refuted-date told claim(s) on this event; those rows stand per append-only.
Reasoning
Re-derived, not walked down. The existing told claim(s) on this event took their date from a delivery claim on node 1196 that the corpus has since REFUTED, so the corpus was asserting that Neville told this on a day it separately says he did not lecture. That is a contradiction rather than an over-confidence, and lowering the confidence would have hidden it instead of resolving it. The refutation stands and the told claim is the wrong side of it. Node 1196 surviving (non-refuted) claim: 1969-2-28 at `probable`. All claims on the node: 1965-3-5 refuted; 1969-2-28 probable (preferred). Superseded here: delta 5: 1965-03-05 at `certain` (run `corpus v1 / phase3b`) | delta 26: 1965-03-05 at `probable` (run `v1.1/l4/ceiling/c2`). The telling is dated by its lecture, so with the refuted date removed from consideration the surviving claim is what the telling inherits, at that claim own confidence and no higher.
7 October 1966
estimated · probable
Why
Lane L7 (#2354) re-derivation. Supersedes in substance, not in storage, the refuted-date told claim(s) on this event; those rows stand per append-only.
Reasoning
Re-derived, not walked down. The existing told claim(s) on this event took their date from a delivery claim on node 1252 that the corpus has since REFUTED, so the corpus was asserting that Neville told this on a day it separately says he did not lecture. That is a contradiction rather than an over-confidence, and lowering the confidence would have hidden it instead of resolving it. The refutation stands and the told claim is the wrong side of it. Node 1252 surviving (non-refuted) claim: 1966-10-7 at `probable`. All claims on the node: 1967-1-18 refuted; 1966-10-7 probable (preferred). Superseded here: delta 7: 1967-01-18 at `certain` (run `corpus v1 / phase3b`) | delta 27: 1967-01-18 at `probable` (run `v1.1/l4/ceiling/c2`). The telling is dated by its lecture, so with the refuted date removed from consideration the surviving claim is what the telling inherits, at that claim own confidence and no higher.
after 20 July 1971
estimated · probable
Why
Lane L7 (#2354) re-derivation. Supersedes in substance, not in storage, the refuted-date told claim(s) on this event; those rows stand per append-only.
Reasoning
Re-derived, not walked down. The existing told claim(s) on this event took their date from a delivery claim on node 1030 that the corpus has since REFUTED, so the corpus was asserting that Neville told this on a day it separately says he did not lecture. That is a contradiction rather than an over-confidence, and lowering the confidence would have hidden it instead of resolving it. The refutation stands and the told claim is the wrong side of it. Node 1030 surviving (non-refuted) claim: 1971-7-20 at `probable`. All claims on the node: 1957-??-?? refuted; 1971-7-20 probable (preferred). Superseded here: delta 1: 1957-00-00 at `certain` (run `corpus v1 / phase3b`) | delta 24: 1957-00-00 at `probable` (run `v1.1/l4/ceiling/c2`). The telling is dated by its lecture, so with the refuted date removed from consideration the surviving claim is what the telling inherits, at that claim own confidence and no higher.
20 October 1967
estimated
Why
Derived told date; competing 1968 claim excluded by internal evidence.
Reasoning
Passage 542506 says the 1959 event was eight years earlier, agreeing with the independent 1967-10-20 chrome and catalog claims and contradicting the weaker 1968-07-26 catalog assignment; this derives the retelling date.
7 April 1969
estimated
Source
nid 1441 surviving delivery claim after refutation. All claims: 1969-4-19 refuted; 1969-4-19 refuted; 1969-4-7 certain (preferred)
Why
Lane L7 (#2354) re-derivation. Supersedes in substance, not in storage, the refuted-date told claim(s) on this event; those rows stand per append-only.
Reasoning
Re-derived, not walked down. The existing told claim(s) on this event took their date from a delivery claim on node 1441 that the corpus has since REFUTED, so the corpus was asserting that Neville told this on a day it separately says he did not lecture. That is a contradiction rather than an over-confidence, and lowering the confidence would have hidden it instead of resolving it. The refutation stands and the told claim is the wrong side of it. Node 1441 surviving (non-refuted) claim: 1969-4-7 at `certain`. All claims on the node: 1969-4-19 refuted; 1969-4-19 refuted; 1969-4-7 certain (preferred). Superseded here: delta 0: 1969-04-19 at `certain` (run `corpus v1 / phase3b`). The telling is dated by its lecture, so with the refuted date removed from consideration the surviving claim is what the telling inherits, at that claim own confidence and no higher.
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11 September 1959
stated · probable
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13 September 1968
stated · probable
9 October 1968
stated · doubtful
11 November 1968
stated
Source
Follow Me (nid 1398), telling 1398-1, told 1968-11-11
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between 15 July 1968 and 15 July 1971
stated · possible
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12 April 1971
stated
Source
Hidden Secret God (nid 1992), telling 1992-7, told 1971-04-12
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17 April 1967
estimated · probable
Why
Lane L7 (#2354) re-derivation. Supersedes in substance, not in storage, the refuted-date told claim(s) on this event; those rows stand per append-only.
Reasoning
Re-derived, not walked down. The existing told claim(s) on this event took their date from a delivery claim on node 1750 that the corpus has since REFUTED, so the corpus was asserting that Neville told this on a day it separately says he did not lecture. That is a contradiction rather than an over-confidence, and lowering the confidence would have hidden it instead of resolving it. The refutation stands and the told claim is the wrong side of it. Node 1750 surviving (non-refuted) claim: 1967-4-17 at `probable`. All claims on the node: 1966-12-27 refuted; 1967-4-17 probable (preferred). Superseded here: delta 16: 1966-12-27 at `certain` (run `corpus v1 / phase3b`) | delta 17: 1966-12-27 at `certain` (run `corpus v1 / phase3b`) | delta 27: 1966-12-27 at `probable` (run `v1.1/l4/ceiling/c2`). The telling is dated by its lecture, so with the refuted date removed from consideration the surviving claim is what the telling inherits, at that claim own confidence and no higher.
9 December 1966
estimated
Why
Lane L7 (#2354) re-derivation. Supersedes in substance, not in storage, the refuted-date told claim(s) on this event; those rows stand per append-only.
Reasoning
Re-derived, not walked down. The existing told claim(s) on this event took their date from a delivery claim on node 1257 that the corpus has since REFUTED, so the corpus was asserting that Neville told this on a day it separately says he did not lecture. That is a contradiction rather than an over-confidence, and lowering the confidence would have hidden it instead of resolving it. The refutation stands and the told claim is the wrong side of it. Node 1257 surviving (non-refuted) claim: 1966-12-9 at `certain`. All claims on the node: 1967-1-26 refuted; 1966-12-9 certain (preferred). Superseded here: delta 8: 1967-01-26 at `certain` (run `corpus v1 / phase3b`). The telling is dated by its lecture, so with the refuted date removed from consideration the surviving claim is what the telling inherits, at that claim own confidence and no higher.
16 December 1968
estimated
Why
Lane L7 (#2354) re-derivation. Supersedes in substance, not in storage, the refuted-date told claim(s) on this event; those rows stand per append-only.
Reasoning
Re-derived, not walked down. The existing told claim(s) on this event took their date from a delivery claim on node 1275 that the corpus has since REFUTED, so the corpus was asserting that Neville told this on a day it separately says he did not lecture. That is a contradiction rather than an over-confidence, and lowering the confidence would have hidden it instead of resolving it. The refutation stands and the told claim is the wrong side of it. Node 1275 surviving (non-refuted) claim: 1968-12-16 at `certain`. All claims on the node: 1967-4-10 refuted; 1969-9-15 refuted; 1968-12-16 certain (preferred). Superseded here: delta 9: 1969-09-15 at `certain` (run `corpus v1 / phase3b`). The telling is dated by its lecture, so with the refuted date removed from consideration the surviving claim is what the telling inherits, at that claim own confidence and no higher.
19 September 1969
estimated · probable
Why
Lane L7 (#2354) re-derivation. Supersedes in substance, not in storage, the refuted-date told claim(s) on this event; those rows stand per append-only.
Reasoning
Re-derived, not walked down. The existing told claim(s) on this event took their date from a delivery claim on node 1758 that the corpus has since REFUTED, so the corpus was asserting that Neville told this on a day it separately says he did not lecture. That is a contradiction rather than an over-confidence, and lowering the confidence would have hidden it instead of resolving it. The refutation stands and the told claim is the wrong side of it. Node 1758 surviving (non-refuted) claim: 1969-9-19 at `probable`. All claims on the node: 1965-2-23 refuted; 1969-9-19 probable (preferred). Superseded here: delta 19: 1965-02-23 at `certain` (run `corpus v1 / phase3b`) | delta 28: 1965-02-23 at `probable` (run `v1.1/l4/ceiling/c2`). The telling is dated by its lecture, so with the refuted date removed from consideration the surviving claim is what the telling inherits, at that claim own confidence and no higher.
16 June 1969
estimated · probable
Reasoning
This event's field_date d13 is witnessed by passage 543640 in lecture nid 1766, which carries no field_told claim despite the lecture having its own delivery evidence. The lecture's most specific delivery claim is a recovered chrome dateline, 1969-06-16 at probable (corroborated by the lecture's own internal 'still before July 1969' statement); a coarser year-only claim on the same node is certain but gives no month or day, so the telling is added at the ceiling of the claim it is actually precision-matched to.
26 July 1968
estimated
Reasoning
This event's field_date d14 (corrected above to 1959-07-20) is witnessed by passage 551215 in lecture nid 1999, which carries no field_told claim despite two independent certain delivery claims on the node (its own dateline and a printed lecture advertisement, media 170) agreeing on 1968-07-26.
15 July 1968
estimated
Reasoning
The existing told claim on this event sourced from node 1756 is a title-only 1968-1971 range at possible confidence. Media 170, a printed advertisement, independently fixes the lecture at 1968-07-15 with certain confidence via its printed date and the surrounding Monday-Friday weekday sequence. This is a different source from the one the existing told claim used, so it stands beside that claim as a sharper telling rather than restating it.
21 June 1971
estimated
Source
Preferred live delivery claim on nid 3994.
Reasoning
The source page's explicit 1971-06-21 header agrees with the lecture's internal June 1971 arithmetic.
10 June 1968
stated
Source
Sharing in Creativity (nid 1365), telling 1365-0, told 1968-06-10
3 May 1968
estimated · probable
Reasoning
Passage 548825 is Neville directly asserting he knows from experience that man is twice born, describing the ascent as a bolt of spiral lightning vibrating the skull. The lecture containing this passage, nid 1914, is dated 1968-05-03 by a probable, source-header-dateline delivery claim, so the telling inherits that date at the same probable confidence.
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19 December 1963
estimated · probable
Reasoning
This occurrence is narrated in 'Christmas, The Redeeming Message'; the lecture packet's confirmed delivery adjudication gives 1963-12-19, supported by the recovered dateline and the independent next-Wednesday Christmas check. || v1.1 type repair: written as `stated` by run v1.1/l4/actor453/17500-17999-b1, retyped `estimated` — the claim cites node 1807, not a passage, so it is this lane's inference rather than something Neville said in so many words (#2117).
1957
stated · refuted
Reasoning
|| v1.1/l7/told-close: the delivery claim this was derived from (nid 1030, 1957--) was refuted by the L7 adjudication (#2363). The corrected told claim from the same lecture stands at 1971-7-20. This row is retired rather than deleted so the derivation history remains readable.
5 March 1965
stated · refuted
Reasoning
|| v1.1/l7/told-close: the delivery claim this was derived from (nid 1196, 1965-3-5) was refuted by the L7 adjudication (#2363). The corrected told claim from the same lecture stands at 1969-2-28. This row is retired rather than deleted so the derivation history remains readable.
18 January 1967
stated · refuted
Reasoning
|| v1.1/l7/told-close: the delivery claim this was derived from (nid 1252, 1967-1-18) was refuted by the L7 adjudication (#2363). The corrected told claim from the same lecture stands at 1966-10-7. This row is retired rather than deleted so the derivation history remains readable.
1957
stated · refuted
Why
Corrects the confidence of the told claim written by run `corpus v1 / phase3b` at delta 1 on this event; that claim is left standing per append-only. Ceiling rule #2132.
Reasoning
Confidence only; the date is not re-adjudicated and is left exactly as written. This claim is derived from the delivery claims of node 1030 and asserts `certain`, but the strongest claim that node carries is `probable`, so there is nothing for `certain` to inherit from. nid 1030 delivery claims: 1957-??-?? doubtful; 1971-7-20 probable. Walked back to `probable`, the ceiling. Whether the DATE is right is a separate question this row does not touch; if the evidence turns out to support more confidence, it will have to come from a source other than this node. || v1.1/l7/told-close: the delivery claim this was derived from (nid 1030, 1957--) was refuted by the L7 adjudication (#2363). The corrected told claim from the same lecture stands at 1971-7-20. This row is retired rather than deleted so the derivation history remains readable.
5 March 1965
stated · refuted
Why
Corrects the confidence of the told claim written by run `corpus v1 / phase3b` at delta 5 on this event; that claim is left standing per append-only. Ceiling rule #2132.
Reasoning
Confidence only; the date is not re-adjudicated and is left exactly as written. This claim is derived from the delivery claims of node 1196 and asserts `certain`, but the strongest claim that node carries is `probable`, so there is nothing for `certain` to inherit from. nid 1196 delivery claims: 1965-3-5 possible; 1969-2-28 probable. Walked back to `probable`, the ceiling. Whether the DATE is right is a separate question this row does not touch; if the evidence turns out to support more confidence, it will have to come from a source other than this node. || v1.1/l7/told-close: the delivery claim this was derived from (nid 1196, 1965-3-5) was refuted by the L7 adjudication (#2363). The corrected told claim from the same lecture stands at 1969-2-28. This row is retired rather than deleted so the derivation history remains readable.
18 January 1967
stated · refuted
Why
Corrects the confidence of the told claim written by run `corpus v1 / phase3b` at delta 7 on this event; that claim is left standing per append-only. Ceiling rule #2132.
Reasoning
Confidence only; the date is not re-adjudicated and is left exactly as written. This claim is derived from the delivery claims of node 1252 and asserts `certain`, but the strongest claim that node carries is `probable`, so there is nothing for `certain` to inherit from. nid 1252 delivery claims: 1967-1-18 possible; 1966-10-7 probable. Walked back to `probable`, the ceiling. Whether the DATE is right is a separate question this row does not touch; if the evidence turns out to support more confidence, it will have to come from a source other than this node. || v1.1/l7/told-close: the delivery claim this was derived from (nid 1252, 1967-1-18) was refuted by the L7 adjudication (#2363). The corrected told claim from the same lecture stands at 1966-10-7. This row is retired rather than deleted so the derivation history remains readable.
19 April 1969
stated · refuted
Source
All That You Behold (nid 1441), telling 1441-1, told 1969-04-19
Reasoning
|| v1.1/l7/told-close: the delivery claim this was derived from (nid 1441, 1969-4-19) was refuted by the L7 adjudication (#2363). The corrected told claim from the same lecture stands at 1969-4-7. This row is retired rather than deleted so the derivation history remains readable.
26 January 1967
stated · refuted
Reasoning
|| v1.1/l7/told-close: the delivery claim this was derived from (nid 1257, 1967-1-26) was refuted by the L7 adjudication (#2363). The corrected told claim from the same lecture stands at 1966-12-9. This row is retired rather than deleted so the derivation history remains readable.
15 September 1969
stated · refuted
Reasoning
|| v1.1/l7/told-close: the delivery claim this was derived from (nid 1275, 1969-9-15) was refuted by the L7 adjudication (#2363). The corrected told claim from the same lecture stands at 1968-12-16. This row is retired rather than deleted so the derivation history remains readable.
21 August 1969
stated · refuted
Reasoning
|| v1.1/l7/told-lower: lowered `certain` -> `doubtful`. The telling-date 1969-08-21 is refuted on the source lecture (nid 1474) and no live claim on that node supports it, so the corpus can no longer say WHEN this was told. ⛔ The row is KEPT, not retired: it also records THAT nid 1474 tells this event, which is true and checkable from the passages, and retiring it would discard that with the date.
27 December 1966
stated · refuted
Reasoning
|| v1.1/l7/told-close: the delivery claim this was derived from (nid 1750, 1966-12-27) was refuted by the L7 adjudication (#2363). The corrected told claim from the same lecture stands at 1967-4-17. This row is retired rather than deleted so the derivation history remains readable.
23 February 1965
stated · refuted
Reasoning
|| v1.1/l7/told-close: the delivery claim this was derived from (nid 1758, 1965-2-23) was refuted by the L7 adjudication (#2363). The corrected told claim from the same lecture stands at 1969-9-19. This row is retired rather than deleted so the derivation history remains readable.
Sources
Source
- The Most Precious Gift ¶17 (I went to sleep here in the hotel . . the Sir Francis Drake, and had anyone told me . . the greatest authority in the world, I would not have believed it.)
- The Promise Fulfilled ¶35 (But as to hastening this thing . . may I tell you from my own experience, when I went to sleep in this City in 1959, on the night of the 19th of July, I hadn’t the slightest idea of the literacy of the Promise of Scripture.)
- Tloa Lecturethe Cross ¶26 (The birth from above, the memory of it is so vivid; the resurrection from the grave is so vivid; the discovery of David is so vivid; the splitting of this body from top to bottom and the ascent up the spinal cord into my skull are so vivid.)
- Christ Is the Reality of Man ¶9 (That series of events I have gone through; I am telling you what I know from experience.)
- Christ Is the Reality of Man ¶25 (I got up by myself, I pushed myself out and pulled myself out of that tomb, to find that the tomb was breathing, a womb, because the minute I came out, the symbolism of the birth was surrounding me)
- Believe in Him ¶20 (This is exactly what I did. I pulled myself right out of myself.)
- The Fundamental Sin ¶53 (I’ve gone out on a limb and told the day and the city. Well now, if you go out and say it happened to Neville in San Francisco on the 20th day of July of 1959, therefore thereafter only in the city of San Francisco can it happen, well, how stupid that wo…)
- Free or Slave ¶29 (I didn’t know who the other one was until it happened to me, on the morning of July the 20th, l959, when I came out of the other womb, and she is from above, right out of my own skull.)
- Christmas: The Birth That Gives Eternal Life ¶17 (It happened on the 20th of October with Benny, the 20th of July with me, and my friend Bob, it happened on a different day with him.)
- Fundamental Revelation: Jesus Christ in Us ¶8 (I only know that I awoke within that sepulcher and that it was a peculiar vibration.)
- The Pattern Man ¶18 (I felt the whole thing coming from inside − that is, from the whole head exploding, and something is coming out − and I am coming out − out of a grave.)
- Imagination Plus Faith ¶39 (It happened right here in this City at that hotel called Sir Francis Drake. I had retired after a very pleasant meal with a friend of mine. I retired early. And then at 4:00 in the morning the whole drama unfolded within me.)
- Mystery Eschatology ¶30 (Well, it happened that way with me. It was the wee hours, four in the morning on Monday. I went to bed on Sunday night about eleven and here in the wee hours of the morning—which is Sunday night but really Monday morning—that’s when it happened.)
- Mystery Eschatology ¶47 (The child is there and you know exactly what happened to you and how you came out like one from a womb, but it was your skull. Then, five months later, “A son is given.”)
- Advent ¶10 (I can tell you from experience these two really are together.)
- Advent ¶20 (And you’re told he does not come by watching; he comes suddenly when you least expect it…and that I know from experience.)
- Jesus, God's Plan of Salvation ¶8 (But that day, four years ago, I felt myself coming-to, and I thought it would be like the normal waking here. But it wasn’t! The most intense vibration I’ve ever felt, and I’m waking alright, but I’m waking to find myself in a tomb, and the tomb, the sep…)
- Jesus, God's Plan of Salvation ¶22 (For, that was the first event, and on the heels of it came the child, and the men who saw the symbol called the child, and I took the child.)
- Gods Mystery Christ ¶30 (So a mystery…my birth from above was prior to the event a mystery to me. I never heard anyone describe it. It came suddenly and it was an awful shock.)
- Outer World Responds Imaginal Acts ¶12 (Having had the experience I can tell you exactly how it happened. You start in the skull and you end in the skull…and the whole drama begins in man.)
- I AM the Vine ¶44 (In my own case, I had the witnesses, three, but even if I didn’t have one, I would still have two—the inward testimony of the Spirit, for I can’t forget it, and the outward testimony of scripture, for scripture records it.)
- My Husband ¶22 (I was the only one resurrected in that sepulcher of my skull. And then I came out as one being born to find the symbol of my birth, wrapped in a swaddling cloth, called a little child.)
- Gods Purpose ¶39 (I was born from above and did not know it—or the birth from above took place on the 20th day of July of 1959, and this was the sixth day of December 1959—139 days later I discovered I didn’t know.)
- Standing Order ¶10 (And may I tell you – it’s an actual, literal fact. I have experienced it. I have reached the end of the drama. It came to me in 1959. I am now approaching my twelfth birthday after my birth from above.)
- Margaret Ruth Broome Neville Goddard The Man Who Knew He Was God ¶16 (It was in San Francisco, on July 20, 1959 that Neville awoke to find himself sealed in a tomb. Removing a stone placed there, he came out of his skull just like a child comes out of its mother’s womb.)
- Amnesia, The Sleep Of Death ¶35 (So should you tonight awaken — and I awoke almost twelve years ago this coming July — I will not precede you in rank.)
- Two Adams ¶35 (So don’t think you’ve got to be born in the way that I’ve described it in my book, in order to exercise his power.)
- Gods Seven Eyes ¶5 (But I awoke within my skull, to find myself entombed — entombed in my own skull. And then came the birth from above. And then following, in a matter of 1,260 days, all the events as described in scripture.)
- John The Crown of Scripture ¶3 (I’ve gone through many at sea and maybe one or two on the earth, on the land, but I’ve gone through quite a few hurricanes at sea and they are disturbing, but you can’t compare it to this sort of wind.)
- Nevilles Awakening Birthday At Sir Francis Drake Hotel San Francisco July 20 (complete research page and reproduced Neville accounts)
- Margaret Ruth Broome Neville Goddard The Man Who Knew He Was God (Broome dates the San Francisco awakening account to July 20, 1959.)
- Goddards Homes West Hollywood New York (residence table and awakening cross-reference)
- The Signs of the End ¶36 (The night it happened to me, on the 20th day of July of 1959 ... in the City of San Francisco.)
- Outer World Responds Imaginal Acts ¶12 (Having had the experience, I can tell you: you started your drama in the skull and you will end it there.)
- The Birth of the Babe ¶28 (Night after night the whole experience unfolded to me. I would turn back to the Bible the next day and find things I had never seen before. I have taught the Bible for 25 years, yet now the whole thing is greater)
- The Second Vision ¶1 (I told you of the experience that took place on July 21st in San Francisco, and that parallels the first vision in the books of Matthew and Luke. I actually gave birth to this Christ Child as it was enacted in me. I was its father.)
- Esau and Jacob ¶22 (This outer garment - Neville - was put through all the paces from seven to twenty-one, and then came this fulfillment of July 21st of this year (the birth of the Babe out of my own being) and I saw the complete separation of that little one called Jesus …)
- In These Last Days by His Son ¶28 (I was struck, and I jumped back in time 2,000 years in the twinkle of an eye after an enormous blow in my head delivered by God to have the experience as described in the Book of Luke. And then five months later, another blow, terrific blow, and I jumped…)
- The Real Man ¶83 (For I had the experience of the child in July of 1959.)
- Twenty-Seven Heavens ¶17 (Well, it didn’t come that day, that year, but it came in 1959. So here, in 1959…prior to that I had had the experience of meeting God, embraced by him, but it was almost like something too green to be understood. It didn’t really come into the mind with …)
- The Eternal Plan ¶0 (Since 1959 I have been in the unique position to share with you God’s plan of salvation. I did not know it before. I knew his law, taught it, practiced it, tried to live by it, and for years helped hundreds and hundreds to change their world to make it c…)
- The Eternal Plan ¶59 (I have had it time and time since. To say I sit down and do it at will, Ben, no. These things come suddenly upon you. While I’m sitting at home, when I’m on my bed, and sometimes when I’m on the street it comes suddenly.)
- We Are Witnesses ¶27 (Mine was a violent act, but without pain. It was so quick.)
- A Prophecy ¶17 (I only know that was the year in which God awoke in me, yet I did not know I had fallen asleep in that skull. But when I emerged, the symbolism recorded as revealing the birth of God surrounded me.)
- Christmas: The Birth That Gives Eternal Life ¶40 (I was in San Francisco when my birth took place and they were in Barbados that was 5,000 miles away. So the wise men came from the East. They came 5,000 miles east of where I was to bear witness to the event.)
- One Thousand Two-Hundred Sixty Days ¶6 (At 4:00 in the morning, a vibration centered at the base of my skull began to increase in intensity until I thought I would explode from the force of it. I am not a doctor, but I have read of massive brain hemorrhages and thought I was having one.)
- The Spirit of Truth ¶10 (Those present had the same feeling of a storm, a storm wind.)
- Jesus Christ: Your Creative Power ¶11 (That night as I slept, I felt an unearthly vibration possess me. It increased in intensity until I felt I must explode, when suddenly I began to awake. Expecting to see the room I had fallen asleep in and the normal awareness I have known after a dream o…)
- The Promise's Fulfillment in You ¶26 (They didn’t call me by any other name. They didn’t call me God. Didn’t call me Lord, didn’t call me Jesus. They spoke of me as Neville. It’s Neville’s baby.)
- Thy Words Were Found ¶8 (I know from my own experience having been born from above that the wind is correct and the water is false. You hear a wind and the wind is in your head, but it also comes from without, seemingly from without.)
- Jesus Or Barabbas ¶28 (May I tell you, long before the experience of the birth from above, I began to sense something alive in my skull, actually could feel a pulsing, a pulsation alive in the skull.)
- Jesus Or Barabbas ¶29 (And so, all of a sudden when I least expected it, the event happened as recorded; and not a thing changed, just as told in scripture. Well, if he is the only one who is born that way, and I know I was, then am I not he?)
- Who Am I July 15 Marines Memorial Club San Francisco ¶15 (And where did I awake? I awoke within my skull! My skull was a tomb, and it’s sealed; and then I came out of it like a child coming out of the womb of a woman, and then the entire drama of Scripture confronts me.)
- Dreamer 2 ¶45 (But the three…in my own case three men were present at my birth from above, as we are told in the Book of Luke, “And three appeared.”)
- I Me God Himself ¶44 (Mine came in July l959, so this coming month of July it’s been ten years since I entered the new age.)
- The Last Days Son ¶32 (I tried my best, I tried not to embellish, not to add to or take from, tell it just as it happened to me.)
- Christmas, The Redeeming Message ¶17 (You take this heavenly child in your hands and you look into his face, and you ask—if you ask the same words that I asked—“How is my sweetheart?” And he looks into your face and smiles.)
- The Kingdom ¶33 (And I’m speaking from experience. I had no idea that this thing was so literally true.)
- Natural Effects Have Spiritual Causes ¶31 (And, may I tell you, it seems strange in this world to make these statements, but I know from experience that they’re true. I know how we play these parts after we have been awakened from the dream of life.)
- The True Exodus ¶19 (And you pick it up and in the most endearing manner you say, “How is my sweetheart?” and the whole thing vanishes, including the three witnesses who witnessed the birth.)
- Signs End July 26 Marines Memorial Club San Francisco ¶8 (And you go to sleep as I did in 1959 in this city across the street at the hotel called the Sir Francis Drake. I spoke in the morning to an audience of maybe a thousand people. It was an open meeting – no charge, a voluntary effort, and a thousand came. …)
- The World Is A Stage ¶23 (That’s in Genesis, and here’s the year 1959 — that’s a long time. 2000 B.C., it’s 4,000 years that it happens, and then comes his son.)
- Self Abandonment ¶34 (That’s the lovely part about it: when you come back into the world and pick up the garment that is asleep on the bed, and quite normally bathe it and shave it and feed it and do all the normal things with it, but you know it to be a garment.)
- Secret Imagination ¶37 (twelve years ago this coming month)
- The Second Vision ¶19 (I must tell you these things, no matter if you believe them or not. The birth of that child was mine, and I know who I am and who he is.)
- The Remnant ¶24 (I was called and sent in 1929. Thirty years later I experienced the birth from above. It has been 39 years since my conscious incorporation into God’s body, thereby becoming one body and one spirit with the Risen Lord. The night of my birth I knew the mi…)
- Natural Effects Have Spiritual Causes ¶31 (And may I tell you, it seems strange in this world to make these statements, but I know from experience they are true.)
- Imparting and Implanting the Word ¶14 (There were three of my brothers present when it happened in me. The one who was the youngest of three lifted the child and declared whose child it was; and when he said, “It’s Neville’s baby” the others denied it by asking in the most incredulous manner,…)
- Revelation of the Word Within ¶13 (I felt myself…I am the one who awoke to find myself completely alone, because God is one.)
- Christmas, The Redeeming Message ¶14 (So I awoke—and you can take it down and this is true—I awoke to find myself in the sepulcher of my skull.)