Before he sailed Abdullah told him he was going to die but would not surely die, and refused to interpret it; later Abdullah said only that 'The Brothers' had told him, meaning the Elohim.
Date (happened)
between November 1933 and 6 December 1933
unresolved
between November 1933 and 6 December 1933
estimated · probable · preferred
Why
M7 dating pass (529; 525's readers, packet 005)
Reasoning
Passage 528245: Abdullah said 'So you're going to Barbados ... you will die but you will not surely die' before he went; he stayed three months over Christmas 'returning from America after eleven years', i.e. 1922 plus eleven. The sailing was booked 1933-12-03/04 (9263, 9267) with the berth on 1933-12-06 (18453) and Abdullah's instruction in 1933-11 (5940).
before 1969
bound · possible
Reasoning
Qualifying passage ids [528245] belong to telling lecture nids [1033]. Each listed lecture contributes the selected safe envelope year 1969 (MAX of its non-refuted delivery years); 1969 is the MIN across telling lectures.
before 30 January 1969
bound
Why
Tightens the phase4 L6a envelope from before 1969 to before 1969-01-30.
Reasoning
L6a envelope tightened to the telling day of nid 1033 (certain delivery 1969-01-30); same premise, finer precision. The phase4 L6a bound on this event is `before 1969`, an envelope over delivery YEARS computed without reading text. Its premise is that the fact is true by the time it is told; on that same premise the DAY of the telling is a strictly better upper bound. Nothing is re-decided — the bound is stated to the precision the evidence always supported. The delivery claim for 1969-01-30 on nid 1033 is held at `certain` by the corpus, which is what carries this claim. #2274; the L6a row stands beside this one.
before 9 January 1964
bound
Reasoning
The witnessed event necessarily predates the supported telling date of its containing lecture. Node 1033's standing delivery is 1964-01-09, so before that day is the tightest safe upper bound supplied by this evidence.
Told / reported
9 January 1964
estimated
Reasoning
Passage 528245 is in node 1033, whose supported delivery date is 1964-01-09. This is a node-derived told date, so it is estimated rather than stated.
30 January 1969
stated · refuted
Sources
Source
- The One Greater Than John ¶9 (Before I went, Abdullah said to me, “So you’re going to Barbados. May I tell you, you’re going to die but you will not surely die. . .but you will die.”)