Fifteen years earlier in Beverly Hills, asleep beside his wife, Neville saw the interior of a plush hotel, stepped into it repeatedly, then chose to remain and was shut out of his body - walked its hallways, spoke to two frightened women, and returned only by assuming and feeling the pillow under his head, waking cataleptic and unable to move.
Date (happened)
c. 1955
estimated · preferred
Why
Append-only re-derivation from the corrected lecture year.
Reasoning
The relative interval dates this experience itself. The owning lecture's surviving certain delivery claim is 1970 at year precision; subtracting fifteen years gives circa 1955. The stored 1942 estimate was derived from the now-refuted 1957 delivery claim.
between 1942 and 1943
stated
between 1956 and 1957
estimated · probable
Why
Does not alter the existing 1942-1943 row (append-only); that row's arithmetic rested on a delivery year the corpus has since abandoned.
Reasoning
The existing 1942-1943 range only works if counted back from the 1957 delivery claim, which the corpus's own l1.3b run superseded in favour of the chrome-dateline 1971-11-19 reading. Recounting 'fourteen or fifteen years ago' from that better-evidenced delivery date gives 1956-1957. Confidence capped at probable because the anchor delivery claim (d2 on node 1038) is itself only probable, not certain.
before 1900
bound · doubtful
Reasoning
v1.1/l0.5/retype/w1-conv: type stated -> bound. Convergence of the w1 pass, which split on this exact shape — 25 rows with the 1900 sentinel year and a vague relative note were judged `stated` while 5 identical rows were judged `bound`. The 1900 here is a placeholder meaning "unknown, sometime before the telling", not a date any source stated; Neville was born in 1905, so "before 1900" is not a coherent bound on his own recollections. A claim whose year is that sentinel cannot be `stated`. Note the year itself remains wrong and is out of scope for L0.5, which may touch only `type` and `preferred` — reported separately. Source note as recorded: ""many years ago", told in This World Is a Dream (nid 1222)" || v1.1/l1.4/sentinel1900: year 1900 here is not a date. `corpus v1 / phase3b` emitted it as a placeholder for "unknown, sometime before the telling" whenever the speaker used a vague temporal phrase — this row's own source note is the phrase. The same sentinel was identified and converged on in run v1.1/l0.5/retype/w1-conv. It carried confidence `certain`, which no evidence supported. Lowered to `doubtful`; an honest `before 1965-05-07` bound is appended alongside from the telling lecture (nid 1222). Nothing deleted, no year invented.
before 7 May 1965
bound · probable
Source
bound from the telling lecture nid 1222 (1965-05-07)
Reasoning
The event is told in the past tense in nid 1222, delivered 1965-05-07 (that claim's confidence: probable, preferred), so it had happened by that date. This is the same premise phase4 L6a and L4.5 rest on, stated at the precision the evidence actually supports rather than as a fabricated year. It replaces nothing: the 1900 placeholder row remains, lowered, as the record of what phase3b did. `bound` is never `preferred`, so this does not change what the event displays.
before 1969
bound · possible
Reasoning
Qualifying passage ids [540484] belong to telling lecture nids [1468]. Each listed lecture contributes the selected safe envelope year 1969 (MAX of its non-refuted delivery years); 1969 is the MIN across telling lectures.
before 25 July 1969
bound · probable
Why
Prior npr 70573 declined a day-precision tighten anchored on the doubtful 06-25 claim; this uses the separate, preferred 07-25 claim instead.
Reasoning
The recounted episode has no calendar date in the passage, only that it happened before the telling. The strongest current delivery evidence for the telling lecture is the preferred chrome-harvest byline, 1969-07-25 at probable confidence, one month later than the doubtful catalog date (06-25) that the existing year-only bound and told claims trace back to; this tightens the bound to the day the current best evidence actually supports, capped at probable per the inheritance ceiling.
between 1952 and 1960
estimated · possible
Why
M7 dating pass (529; 525's readers, packet 026)
Reasoning
Passage 540484 names the bed's address as El Camino, Beverly Hills. The frame gives him a furnished home on El Camino 1952-53 (20232) and his first home after the move west in Beverly Hills 1957-60 (20463); chronology 15859 confirms El Camino in 1958. He lived in New York in 1942-43, so c.1942 (15029, 15048) is unlikely.
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before 1963
bound · possible
Reasoning
Qualifying passage ids [544974] belong to telling lecture nids [1805]. Each listed lecture contributes the selected safe envelope year 1963 (MAX of its non-refuted delivery years); 1963 is the MIN across telling lectures.
before 23 April 1963
bound
Why
Tightens the phase4 L6a envelope from before 1963 to before 1963-04-23.
Reasoning
L6a envelope tightened to the telling day of nid 1805 (certain delivery 1963-04-23); same premise, finer precision. The phase4 L6a bound on this event is `before 1963`, an envelope over delivery YEARS computed without reading text. Its premise is that the fact is true by the time it is told; on that same premise the DAY of the telling is a strictly better upper bound. Nothing is re-decided — the bound is stated to the precision the evidence always supported. The delivery claim for 1963-04-23 on nid 1805 is held at `certain` by the corpus, which is what carries this claim. #2274; the L6a row stands beside this one.
between 1952 and 1960
estimated · possible
Why
M7 dating pass (529; 525's readers, packet 004)
Reasoning
The place is explicit (home in Beverly Hills on El Camino). The frame records the El Camino furnished home for 1952-1953 (residence 20232) and El Camino in 1958 (15859), and his first home after the move west, Beverly Hills, 1957-1960 (20463). The 'first experience' of fourfold vision cannot be placed within that window from the text. Catalogue dates of c. 1942-43 for the same hotel/building experience (15029, 15048) conflict with the residence record.
before 19 April 1963
bound
Source
bound from the telling lecture nid 1843 (1963-04-19)
Reasoning
The event is told in the past tense in nid 1843, delivered 1963-04-19 (that claim's confidence: certain, preferred), so it had happened by that date. This is the same premise phase4 L6a and L4.5 rest on, stated at the precision the evidence actually supports rather than as a fabricated year. It replaces nothing: the 1900 placeholder row remains, lowered, as the record of what phase3b did. `bound` is never `preferred`, so this does not change what the event displays.
c. 1942
stated · refuted
Why
pm-actor-525: refuted by the M7 dating pass (529; 525's readers, packet 008): Computed from the now-refuted 1957 delivery-date claim on lecture 1036; the corrected certain delivery (1970) gives circa 1955 instead.
c. 1900
stated · refuted
Reasoning
|| v1.1/l1.4/sentinel1900: year 1900 here is not a date. `corpus v1 / phase3b` emitted it as a placeholder for "unknown, sometime before the telling" whenever the speaker used a vague temporal phrase — this row's own source note is the phrase. The same sentinel was identified and converged on in run v1.1/l0.5/retype/w1-conv. It carried confidence `probable`, which no evidence supported. Lowered to `doubtful`; an honest `before 1963-04-19` bound is appended alongside from the telling lecture (nid 1843). Nothing deleted, no year invented. || v1.1/l1.4/sentinel1900-refute: REFUTED. This event involves Neville himself and he was born 1905-02-19 (event 950 delta 9, `certain` + `preferred`), so 1900 is not merely unsupported — it is impossible. The event now displays no date, which is the honest state: the `before` bound appended by v1.1/l1.4/sentinel1900 remains and is what is actually known. Row kept, not deleted.
Told / reported
1970
estimated
Why
Lane L7 (#2354) re-derivation. Supersedes in substance, not in storage, the refuted-date told claim(s) on this event; those rows stand per append-only.
Reasoning
Re-derived, not walked down. The existing told claim(s) on this event took their date from a delivery claim on node 1036 that the corpus has since REFUTED, so the corpus was asserting that Neville told this on a day it separately says he did not lecture. That is a contradiction rather than an over-confidence, and lowering the confidence would have hidden it instead of resolving it. The refutation stands and the told claim is the wrong side of it. Node 1036 surviving (non-refuted) claim: 1970-??-?? at `certain`. All claims on the node: 1957-??-?? refuted; 1968-5-10 refuted; 1970-??-?? certain (preferred). Superseded here: delta 0: 1968-05-10 at `certain` (run `corpus v1 / phase3b`). The telling is dated by its lecture, so with the refuted date removed from consideration the surviving claim is what the telling inherits, at that claim own confidence and no higher.
19 November 1971
estimated · probable
Why
Lane L7 (#2354) re-derivation. Supersedes in substance, not in storage, the refuted-date told claim(s) on this event; those rows stand per append-only.
Reasoning
Re-derived, not walked down. The existing told claim(s) on this event took their date from a delivery claim on node 1038 that the corpus has since REFUTED, so the corpus was asserting that Neville told this on a day it separately says he did not lecture. That is a contradiction rather than an over-confidence, and lowering the confidence would have hidden it instead of resolving it. The refutation stands and the told claim is the wrong side of it. Node 1038 surviving (non-refuted) claim: 1971-11-19 at `probable`. All claims on the node: 1957-??-?? refuted; 1970-3-27 refuted; 1971-11-19 probable (preferred). Superseded here: delta 0: 1970-03-27 at `certain` (run `corpus v1 / phase3b`) | delta 1: 1970-03-27 at `probable` (run `v1.1/l4/ceiling/c2`). The telling is dated by its lecture, so with the refuted date removed from consideration the surviving claim is what the telling inherits, at that claim own confidence and no higher.
22 November 1965
stated · doubtful
7 May 1965
estimated · probable
Reasoning
Authoritative carrier adjudication selects 1965-05-07 probable and rejects 1965-11-22.
25 June 1969
stated · doubtful
25 July 1969
estimated · probable
Reasoning
Both existing told claims on this event (certain, then ceiling-corrected to probable) carry the date 1969-06-25 from Neville lectures catalog #574, which the packet itself flags doubtful and 'questioned_by_stronger_source'; the preferred chrome-harvest byline for this lecture instead reads 1969-07-25. This adds the telling date the strongest current evidence supports, at the probable ceiling that claim carries.
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10 May 1968
stated · refuted
Reasoning
|| v1.1/l7/told-close: the delivery claim this was derived from (nid 1036, 1968-5-10) was refuted by the L7 adjudication (#2363). The corrected told claim from the same lecture stands at 1970-?-?. This row is retired rather than deleted so the derivation history remains readable.
27 March 1970
stated · refuted
Reasoning
|| v1.1/l7/told-close: the delivery claim this was derived from (nid 1038, 1970-3-27) was refuted by the L7 adjudication (#2363). The corrected told claim from the same lecture stands at 1971-11-19. This row is retired rather than deleted so the derivation history remains readable.
Sources
Source
- The Divine Body ¶10 (Two ladies are walking down the hallway, and I say to them, “Ladies, this is a dream,” because I knew exactly how it started, and I am telling them, “This is a dream,” and they are afraid of me, as though I were stark mad.)
- The Flood Is Still Upon Us ¶19 (I didn’t go through like some gossamer; I opened the door with my hand and I walked right through that doorway. I was solidly real to myself.)
- This World Is a Dream ¶6 (Now, many years ago I had an experience, and since then many similar experiences, where lying on my bed here on El Camino in Beverly Hills I suddenly saw the interior of what appeared to me a most wonderful, luscious hotel, or something similar, and my c…)
- Test Him and See ¶2 (My body is on a bed. I know exactly where that bed is, it’s in Beverly Hills, on El Camino.)
- Wonder-Working Power ¶9 (But one night, here in Beverly Hills, I suddenly looked up, my eyes were closed, and I was awake. I knew exactly where I was. I was in my home in Beverly Hills on El Camino, and I knew what I should see were my eyes open.)
- Living Water ¶44 (And so stepping from my bed into that world and it wasn’t this earth, but a solid world just like this, with people clothed as you are clothed.)