Neville's Beverly Hills out-of-body hotel experience

Fifteen years earlier in Beverly Hills, asleep beside his wife, Neville saw the interior of a plush hotel, stepped into it repeatedly, then chose to remain and was shut out of his body - walked its hallways, spoke to two frightened women, and returned only by assuming and feeling the pillow under his head, waking cataleptic and unable to move.
Date (happened)
c. 1955
unresolved
  1. c. 1955 estimated · preferred
    Source The Divine Body ¶10The account beginning in passage 528422 says the Beverly Hills experience occurred fifteen years ago.
    Why Append-only re-derivation from the corrected lecture year.
    Reasoning The relative interval dates this experience itself. The owning lecture's surviving certain delivery claim is 1970 at year precision; subtracting fifteen years gives circa 1955. The stored 1942 estimate was derived from the now-refuted 1957 delivery claim.
  2. between 1942 and 1943 stated
    Source The Flood Is Still Upon Us ¶19"many years ago (it must have been fourteen or fifteen years ago)", told in The Flood Is Still Upon Us (nid 1038)
  3. between 1956 and 1957 estimated · probable
    Source The Flood Is Still Upon Us ¶19passage 528506 (lecture nid 1038), 'many years ago (it must have been fourteen or fifteen years ago)', counted back from the lecture's probable 1971-11-19 delivery (chrome dateline, d2)
    Why Does not alter the existing 1942-1943 row (append-only); that row's arithmetic rested on a delivery year the corpus has since abandoned.
    Reasoning The existing 1942-1943 range only works if counted back from the 1957 delivery claim, which the corpus's own l1.3b run superseded in favour of the chrome-dateline 1971-11-19 reading. Recounting 'fourteen or fifteen years ago' from that better-evidenced delivery date gives 1956-1957. Confidence capped at probable because the anchor delivery claim (d2 on node 1038) is itself only probable, not certain.
  4. before 1900 bound · doubtful
    Source This World Is a Dream ¶6"many years ago", told in This World Is a Dream (nid 1222)
    Reasoning v1.1/l0.5/retype/w1-conv: type stated -> bound. Convergence of the w1 pass, which split on this exact shape — 25 rows with the 1900 sentinel year and a vague relative note were judged `stated` while 5 identical rows were judged `bound`. The 1900 here is a placeholder meaning "unknown, sometime before the telling", not a date any source stated; Neville was born in 1905, so "before 1900" is not a coherent bound on his own recollections. A claim whose year is that sentinel cannot be `stated`. Note the year itself remains wrong and is out of scope for L0.5, which may touch only `type` and `preferred` — reported separately. Source note as recorded: ""many years ago", told in This World Is a Dream (nid 1222)" || v1.1/l1.4/sentinel1900: year 1900 here is not a date. `corpus v1 / phase3b` emitted it as a placeholder for "unknown, sometime before the telling" whenever the speaker used a vague temporal phrase — this row's own source note is the phrase. The same sentinel was identified and converged on in run v1.1/l0.5/retype/w1-conv. It carried confidence `certain`, which no evidence supported. Lowered to `doubtful`; an honest `before 1965-05-07` bound is appended alongside from the telling lecture (nid 1222). Nothing deleted, no year invented.
  5. before 7 May 1965 bound · probable
    Source bound from the telling lecture nid 1222 (1965-05-07)
    Reasoning The event is told in the past tense in nid 1222, delivered 1965-05-07 (that claim's confidence: probable, preferred), so it had happened by that date. This is the same premise phase4 L6a and L4.5 rest on, stated at the precision the evidence actually supports rather than as a fabricated year. It replaces nothing: the 1900 placeholder row remains, lowered, as the record of what phase3b did. `bound` is never `preferred`, so this does not change what the event displays.
  6. before 1969 bound · possible
    Source Test Him and See ¶2qualifying source passages 540484; telling lecture nids 1468
    Reasoning Qualifying passage ids [540484] belong to telling lecture nids [1468]. Each listed lecture contributes the selected safe envelope year 1969 (MAX of its non-refuted delivery years); 1969 is the MIN across telling lectures.
  7. before 25 July 1969 bound · probable
    Source Test Him and Seelecture nid 1468 delivery claim d1, chrome dateline 'By Neville Goddard - 07-25-1969' removed in Pass 0, revision 9034 (probable, preferred)
    Why Prior npr 70573 declined a day-precision tighten anchored on the doubtful 06-25 claim; this uses the separate, preferred 07-25 claim instead.
    Reasoning The recounted episode has no calendar date in the passage, only that it happened before the telling. The strongest current delivery evidence for the telling lecture is the preferred chrome-harvest byline, 1969-07-25 at probable confidence, one month later than the doubtful catalog date (06-25) that the existing year-only bound and told claims trace back to; this tightens the bound to the day the current best evidence actually supports, capped at probable per the inheritance ceiling.
  8. between 1952 and 1960 estimated · possible
    Why M7 dating pass (529; 525's readers, packet 026)
    Reasoning Passage 540484 names the bed's address as El Camino, Beverly Hills. The frame gives him a furnished home on El Camino 1952-53 (20232) and his first home after the move west in Beverly Hills 1957-60 (20463); chronology 15859 confirms El Camino in 1958. He lived in New York in 1942-43, so c.1942 (15029, 15048) is unlikely.
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  1. before 1963 bound · possible
    Source Wonder-Working Power ¶9qualifying source passages 544974; telling lecture nids 1805
    Reasoning Qualifying passage ids [544974] belong to telling lecture nids [1805]. Each listed lecture contributes the selected safe envelope year 1963 (MAX of its non-refuted delivery years); 1963 is the MIN across telling lectures.
  2. before 23 April 1963 bound
    Source Wonder-Working Powertelling lecture nid 1805, certain delivery 1963-04-23
    Why Tightens the phase4 L6a envelope from before 1963 to before 1963-04-23.
    Reasoning L6a envelope tightened to the telling day of nid 1805 (certain delivery 1963-04-23); same premise, finer precision. The phase4 L6a bound on this event is `before 1963`, an envelope over delivery YEARS computed without reading text. Its premise is that the fact is true by the time it is told; on that same premise the DAY of the telling is a strictly better upper bound. Nothing is re-decided — the bound is stated to the precision the evidence always supported. The delivery claim for 1963-04-23 on nid 1805 is held at `certain` by the corpus, which is what carries this claim. #2274; the L6a row stands beside this one.
  3. between 1952 and 1960 estimated · possible
    Why M7 dating pass (529; 525's readers, packet 004)
    Reasoning The place is explicit (home in Beverly Hills on El Camino). The frame records the El Camino furnished home for 1952-1953 (residence 20232) and El Camino in 1958 (15859), and his first home after the move west, Beverly Hills, 1957-1960 (20463). The 'first experience' of fourfold vision cannot be placed within that window from the text. Catalogue dates of c. 1942-43 for the same hotel/building experience (15029, 15048) conflict with the residence record.
  4. before 19 April 1963 bound
    Source bound from the telling lecture nid 1843 (1963-04-19)
    Reasoning The event is told in the past tense in nid 1843, delivered 1963-04-19 (that claim's confidence: certain, preferred), so it had happened by that date. This is the same premise phase4 L6a and L4.5 rest on, stated at the precision the evidence actually supports rather than as a fabricated year. It replaces nothing: the 1900 placeholder row remains, lowered, as the record of what phase3b did. `bound` is never `preferred`, so this does not change what the event displays.
  5. c. 1942 stated · refuted
    Source The Divine Body ¶10"Fifteen years ago", told in The Divine Body (nid 1036)
    Why pm-actor-525: refuted by the M7 dating pass (529; 525's readers, packet 008): Computed from the now-refuted 1957 delivery-date claim on lecture 1036; the corrected certain delivery (1970) gives circa 1955 instead.
  6. c. 1900 stated · refuted
    Source Living Water ¶44"one night many years ago", told in Living Water (nid 1843)
    Reasoning || v1.1/l1.4/sentinel1900: year 1900 here is not a date. `corpus v1 / phase3b` emitted it as a placeholder for "unknown, sometime before the telling" whenever the speaker used a vague temporal phrase — this row's own source note is the phrase. The same sentinel was identified and converged on in run v1.1/l0.5/retype/w1-conv. It carried confidence `probable`, which no evidence supported. Lowered to `doubtful`; an honest `before 1963-04-19` bound is appended alongside from the telling lecture (nid 1843). Nothing deleted, no year invented. || v1.1/l1.4/sentinel1900-refute: REFUTED. This event involves Neville himself and he was born 1905-02-19 (event 950 delta 9, `certain` + `preferred`), so 1900 is not merely unsupported — it is impossible. The event now displays no date, which is the honest state: the `before` bound appended by v1.1/l1.4/sentinel1900 remains and is what is actually known. Row kept, not deleted.
Told / reported
  1. 1970 estimated
    Source The Divine Bodynid 1036 surviving delivery claim after refutation. All claims: 1957-??-?? refuted; 1968-5-10 refuted; 1970-??-?? certain (preferred)
    Why Lane L7 (#2354) re-derivation. Supersedes in substance, not in storage, the refuted-date told claim(s) on this event; those rows stand per append-only.
    Reasoning Re-derived, not walked down. The existing told claim(s) on this event took their date from a delivery claim on node 1036 that the corpus has since REFUTED, so the corpus was asserting that Neville told this on a day it separately says he did not lecture. That is a contradiction rather than an over-confidence, and lowering the confidence would have hidden it instead of resolving it. The refutation stands and the told claim is the wrong side of it. Node 1036 surviving (non-refuted) claim: 1970-??-?? at `certain`. All claims on the node: 1957-??-?? refuted; 1968-5-10 refuted; 1970-??-?? certain (preferred). Superseded here: delta 0: 1968-05-10 at `certain` (run `corpus v1 / phase3b`). The telling is dated by its lecture, so with the refuted date removed from consideration the surviving claim is what the telling inherits, at that claim own confidence and no higher.
  2. 19 November 1971 estimated · probable
    Source The Flood Is Still Upon Usnid 1038 surviving delivery claim after refutation. All claims: 1957-??-?? refuted; 1970-3-27 refuted; 1971-11-19 probable (preferred)
    Why Lane L7 (#2354) re-derivation. Supersedes in substance, not in storage, the refuted-date told claim(s) on this event; those rows stand per append-only.
    Reasoning Re-derived, not walked down. The existing told claim(s) on this event took their date from a delivery claim on node 1038 that the corpus has since REFUTED, so the corpus was asserting that Neville told this on a day it separately says he did not lecture. That is a contradiction rather than an over-confidence, and lowering the confidence would have hidden it instead of resolving it. The refutation stands and the told claim is the wrong side of it. Node 1038 surviving (non-refuted) claim: 1971-11-19 at `probable`. All claims on the node: 1957-??-?? refuted; 1970-3-27 refuted; 1971-11-19 probable (preferred). Superseded here: delta 0: 1970-03-27 at `certain` (run `corpus v1 / phase3b`) | delta 1: 1970-03-27 at `probable` (run `v1.1/l4/ceiling/c2`). The telling is dated by its lecture, so with the refuted date removed from consideration the surviving claim is what the telling inherits, at that claim own confidence and no higher.
  3. 22 November 1965 stated · doubtful
    Source This World Is a DreamThis World Is a Dream (nid 1222), telling 1222-1, told 1965-11-22
  4. 7 May 1965 estimated · probable
    Reasoning Authoritative carrier adjudication selects 1965-05-07 probable and rejects 1965-11-22.
  5. 25 June 1969 stated · doubtful
    Source Test Him and SeeTest Him and See (nid 1468), telling 1468-0, told 1969-06-25
  6. 25 July 1969 estimated · probable
    Source Test Him and Seelecture nid 1468 delivery claim d1, chrome dateline 'By Neville Goddard - 07-25-1969' removed in Pass 0, revision 9034 (probable, preferred)
    Reasoning Both existing told claims on this event (certain, then ceiling-corrected to probable) carry the date 1969-06-25 from Neville lectures catalog #574, which the packet itself flags doubtful and 'questioned_by_stronger_source'; the preferred chrome-harvest byline for this lecture instead reads 1969-07-25. This adds the telling date the strongest current evidence supports, at the probable ceiling that claim carries.
  7. 23 April 1963 stated
    Source Wonder-Working PowerWonder-Working Power (nid 1805), telling 1805-2, told 1963-04-23
  8. 19 April 1963 stated
    Source Living WaterLiving Water (nid 1843), telling 1843-4, told 1963-04-19
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  1. 10 May 1968 stated · refuted
    Source The Divine BodyThe Divine Body (nid 1036), telling 1036-1, told 1968-05-10
    Reasoning || v1.1/l7/told-close: the delivery claim this was derived from (nid 1036, 1968-5-10) was refuted by the L7 adjudication (#2363). The corrected told claim from the same lecture stands at 1970-?-?. This row is retired rather than deleted so the derivation history remains readable.
  2. 27 March 1970 stated · refuted
    Source The Flood Is Still Upon UsThe Flood Is Still Upon Us (nid 1038), telling 1038-4, told 1970-03-27
    Reasoning || v1.1/l7/told-close: the delivery claim this was derived from (nid 1038, 1970-3-27) was refuted by the L7 adjudication (#2363). The corrected told claim from the same lecture stands at 1971-11-19. This row is retired rather than deleted so the derivation history remains readable.
Sources

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  • The Divine Body ¶10 (Two ladies are walking down the hallway, and I say to them, “Ladies, this is a dream,” because I knew exactly how it started, and I am telling them, “This is a dream,” and they are afraid of me, as though I were stark mad.)
  • The Flood Is Still Upon Us ¶19 (I didn’t go through like some gossamer; I opened the door with my hand and I walked right through that doorway. I was solidly real to myself.)
  • This World Is a Dream ¶6 (Now, many years ago I had an experience, and since then many similar experiences, where lying on my bed here on El Camino in Beverly Hills I suddenly saw the interior of what appeared to me a most wonderful, luscious hotel, or something similar, and my c…)
  • Test Him and See ¶2 (My body is on a bed. I know exactly where that bed is, it’s in Beverly Hills, on El Camino.)
  • Wonder-Working Power ¶9 (But one night, here in Beverly Hills, I suddenly looked up, my eyes were closed, and I was awake. I knew exactly where I was. I was in my home in Beverly Hills on El Camino, and I knew what I should see were my eyes open.)
  • Living Water ¶44 (And so stepping from my bed into that world and it wasn’t this earth, but a solid world just like this, with people clothed as you are clothed.)