Neville recalls his father's favourite toast when he wanted a drink — a joke about a man rocking another man's child and thinking it his own — his father having sired, or thought he had, twelve children.
Date (happened)
before 25 November 1966
bound · preferred
Source
passage 528485 recalls Neville's father using the toast before it was recounted in lecture 1037
Why
Upper bound for a recurring remembered saying.
Reasoning
The saying is explicitly retrospective in a lecture directly dated 1966-11-25, establishing that the remembered usage predates that day. The packet gives no date for any individual toast.
before 1969
bound · possible
Source
qualifying source passages 528485; telling lecture nids 1037
Reasoning
Qualifying passage ids [528485] belong to telling lecture nids [1037]. Each listed lecture contributes the selected safe envelope year 1969 (MAX of its non-refuted delivery years); 1969 is the MIN across telling lectures.
Told / reported
25 November 1966
estimated
Source
nid 1037 surviving delivery claim after refutation. All claims: 1957-??-?? refuted; 1969-3-26 refuted; 1966-11-25 certain (preferred)
Why
Lane L7 (#2354) re-derivation. Supersedes in substance, not in storage, the refuted-date told claim(s) on this event; those rows stand per append-only.
Reasoning
Re-derived, not walked down. The existing told claim(s) on this event took their date from a delivery claim on node 1037 that the corpus has since REFUTED, so the corpus was asserting that Neville told this on a day it separately says he did not lecture. That is a contradiction rather than an over-confidence, and lowering the confidence would have hidden it instead of resolving it. The refutation stands and the told claim is the wrong side of it. Node 1037 surviving (non-refuted) claim: 1966-11-25 at `certain`. All claims on the node: 1957-??-?? refuted; 1969-3-26 refuted; 1966-11-25 certain (preferred). Superseded here: delta 0: 1969-03-26 at `certain` (run `corpus v1 / phase3b`). The telling is dated by its lecture, so with the refuted date removed from consideration the surviving claim is what the telling inherits, at that claim own confidence and no higher.
25 November 1966
estimated · probable
Why
No date is given for the childhood memory itself, only for the lecture in which he recounts it.
Reasoning
The recollection of his father's toast and family size (passage 555240) is told within lecture nid 2190, whose only delivery claim dates it to 1966-11-25 at probable confidence; the telling cannot exceed that ceiling.
26 March 1969
stated · refuted
Source
The Eternal Father (nid 1037), telling 1037-6, told 1969-03-26
Reasoning
|| v1.1/l7/told-close: the delivery claim this was derived from (nid 1037, 1969-3-26) was refuted by the L7 adjudication (#2363). The corrected told claim from the same lecture stands at 1966-11-25. This row is retired rather than deleted so the derivation history remains readable.
Sources
Source
- The Eternal Father ¶41 (But my father had a very lovely expression when he toasted when he wanted a drink, and he said, “Here’s to the man that rocks his child, and rocks his child alone, for there’s many a man who rocks another man’s child and thinks he’s rocking his own.”)