Neville recalls the joy of being told his wife was pregnant, and the thrill of first holding his son and seeing him make a fist.
Date (happened)
before 1969
bound · possible
Source
qualifying source passages 528485; telling lecture nids 1037
Reasoning
Qualifying passage ids [528485] belong to telling lecture nids [1037]. Each listed lecture contributes the selected safe envelope year 1969 (MAX of its non-refuted delivery years); 1969 is the MIN across telling lectures.
before 25 November 1966
bound
Source
Retrospective birth recollection in passage 528485; carrier lecture nid 1037 has direct dateline 1966-11-25.
Reasoning
The passage is explicitly retrospective: Neville recalls being told his wife was pregnant and then first holding his son. Those events predate the utterance. The carrier lecture's direct dateline is certain at 1966-11-25, so the occurrence is safely before that day.
c. May 1924
estimated · possible
Why
M7 dating pass (529; 525's readers, packet 014)
Reasoning
In passage 555240 he speaks of 'my daughter' separately, then of holding 'him' and seeing 'your son do a fist'. His only son is Joseph, born 1924-05-19 (event 735) to Mildred (married 1923-10-13); Catherine bore Victoria in 1942. So the pregnancy news is late 1923/early 1924 and the first holding is May 1924. The son reading is an inference, hence possible.
Told / reported
25 November 1966
estimated
Source
nid 1037 surviving delivery claim after refutation. All claims: 1957-??-?? refuted; 1969-3-26 refuted; 1966-11-25 certain (preferred)
Why
Lane L7 (#2354) re-derivation. Supersedes in substance, not in storage, the refuted-date told claim(s) on this event; those rows stand per append-only.
Reasoning
Re-derived, not walked down. The existing told claim(s) on this event took their date from a delivery claim on node 1037 that the corpus has since REFUTED, so the corpus was asserting that Neville told this on a day it separately says he did not lecture. That is a contradiction rather than an over-confidence, and lowering the confidence would have hidden it instead of resolving it. The refutation stands and the told claim is the wrong side of it. Node 1037 surviving (non-refuted) claim: 1966-11-25 at `certain`. All claims on the node: 1957-??-?? refuted; 1969-3-26 refuted; 1966-11-25 certain (preferred). Superseded here: delta 0: 1969-03-26 at `certain` (run `corpus v1 / phase3b`). The telling is dated by its lecture, so with the refuted date removed from consideration the surviving claim is what the telling inherits, at that claim own confidence and no higher.
25 November 1966
estimated · probable
Reasoning
Passage 555240 is Neville recalling directly the joy of learning his wife was pregnant and first holding his son. The lecture containing this passage, nid 2190, is dated 1966-11-25 by a probable, source-header-dateline delivery claim, so the telling inherits that date at the same probable confidence.
26 March 1969
stated · refuted
Source
The Eternal Father (nid 1037), telling 1037-7, told 1969-03-26
Reasoning
|| v1.1/l7/told-close: the delivery claim this was derived from (nid 1037, 1969-3-26) was refuted by the L7 adjudication (#2363). The corrected told claim from the same lecture stands at 1966-11-25. This row is retired rather than deleted so the derivation history remains readable.
Sources
Source
- The Eternal Father ¶41 (When I was told that my wife was pregnant it was nothing but joy. And when you first see the child and you take him in your arms, what a thrill to hold him! And to actually see your son do a fist, that’s a tremendous thrill.)
- The Eternal Father ¶41 (I know I was. When I was told that my wife was pregnant it was nothing but joy. And when you first see the child and you take him in your arms, what a thrill to hold him!)