Carter says Neville asserted in virtually every lecture that he was not theorizing but had experienced scripture from beginning to end, and that his hearers would have the same experience.
Carter says Neville asserted in virtually every lecture that he was not theorizing but had experienced scripture from beginning to end, and that his hearers would have the same experience. [Date evidence: recurring across Neville's lectures; no specific occasion]
Date (happened)
8 February 1963
unresolved
8 February 1963
stated · preferred
between 1900 and 13 January 1964
stated · doubtful
Reasoning
|| v1.1/l1.4/sentinel1900: year 1900 here is not a date. `corpus v1 / phase3b` emitted it as a placeholder for "unknown, sometime before the telling" whenever the speaker used a vague temporal phrase — this row's own source note is the phrase. The same sentinel was identified and converged on in run v1.1/l0.5/retype/w1-conv. It carried confidence `probable`, which no evidence supported. Lowered to `doubtful`; an honest `before 1971` bound is appended alongside from the telling lecture (nid 1125). Nothing deleted, no year invented.
17 October 1967
stated · doubtful
Reasoning
|| v1.1/l7/passage-inherit: lowered `certain` -> `doubtful`. This date was inherited from lecture node 1293, whose own 1967-10-17 delivery claim has been refuted, and no other node in the corpus holds that date live — so the only witness for this date is one the corpus has disproved. Lowered, never refuted (#2461 §1 rule (b)): what collapsed is the evidence for WHEN, not the event. This row was reached through a PASSAGE source, which every earlier rule-(b) pass was structurally blind to.
before 1971
bound
Source
bound from the telling lecture nid 1125 (1971)
Reasoning
The event is told in the past tense in nid 1125, delivered 1971 (that claim's confidence: certain, preferred), so it had happened by that date. This is the same premise phase4 L6a and L4.5 rest on, stated at the precision the evidence actually supports rather than as a fabricated year. It replaces nothing: the 1900 placeholder row remains, lowered, as the record of what phase3b did. `bound` is never `preferred`, so this does not change what the event displays.
Verbatim (witness's words)
I don't think a lecture went by that he didn't say that I am not theorizing, I am not speculating. I have experienced scripture from the beginning to the end, and it's all true, and you're going to have the same experience.
Neville (as quoted): "I am not theorizing, I am not speculating. I have experienced scripture from the beginning to the end, and it's all true, and you're going to have the same experience."
Told
20 June 1976
stated · preferred
Source
NGR ep.37, Carter lecture 3, 1976-06-20
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8 May 1969
stated
Source
God's Dwelling Place (nid 2049), telling 2049-5, told 1969-05-08
12 December 1969
stated
Source
Mystery Life (nid 2050), telling 2050-6, told 1969-12-12
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17 October 1966
estimated
Why
Lane L7 (#2354) re-derivation. Supersedes in substance, not in storage, the refuted-date told claim(s) on this event; those rows stand per append-only.
Reasoning
Re-derived, not walked down. The existing told claim(s) on this event took their date from a delivery claim on node 1293 that the corpus has since REFUTED, so the corpus was asserting that Neville told this on a day it separately says he did not lecture. That is a contradiction rather than an over-confidence, and lowering the confidence would have hidden it instead of resolving it. The refutation stands and the told claim is the wrong side of it. Node 1293 surviving (non-refuted) claim: 1966-10-17 at `certain`. All claims on the node: 1967-10-17 refuted; 1966-10-17 certain (preferred). Superseded here: delta 2: 1967-10-17 at `certain` (run `corpus v1 / phase3b`). The telling is dated by its lecture, so with the refuted date removed from consideration the surviving claim is what the telling inherits, at that claim own confidence and no higher.
16 April 1971
estimated
Why
Lane L7 (#2354) re-derivation. Supersedes in substance, not in storage, the refuted-date told claim(s) on this event; those rows stand per append-only.
Reasoning
Re-derived, not walked down. The existing told claim(s) on this event took their date from a delivery claim on node 1511 that the corpus has since REFUTED, so the corpus was asserting that Neville told this on a day it separately says he did not lecture. That is a contradiction rather than an over-confidence, and lowering the confidence would have hidden it instead of resolving it. The refutation stands and the told claim is the wrong side of it. Node 1511 surviving (non-refuted) claim: 1971-4-16 at `certain`. All claims on the node: 1970-4-16 refuted; 1971-4-16 certain (preferred). Superseded here: delta 3: 1970-04-16 at `certain` (run `corpus v1 / phase3b`). The telling is dated by its lecture, so with the refuted date removed from consideration the surviving claim is what the telling inherits, at that claim own confidence and no higher.
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22 March 1971
estimated · probable
Why
Lane L7 (#2354) re-derivation. Supersedes in substance, not in storage, the refuted-date told claim(s) on this event; those rows stand per append-only.
Reasoning
Re-derived, not walked down. The existing told claim(s) on this event took their date from a delivery claim on node 1125 that the corpus has since REFUTED, so the corpus was asserting that Neville told this on a day it separately says he did not lecture. That is a contradiction rather than an over-confidence, and lowering the confidence would have hidden it instead of resolving it. The refutation stands and the told claim is the wrong side of it. Node 1125 surviving (non-refuted) claim: 1971-3-22 at `probable`. All claims on the node: 1964-1-13 refuted; 1967-2-10 refuted; 1971-3-22 probable; 1971-??-?? certain (preferred). Superseded here: delta 1: 1967-02-10 at `certain` (run `corpus v1 / phase3b`). The telling is dated by its lecture, so with the refuted date removed from consideration the surviving claim is what the telling inherits, at that claim own confidence and no higher.
10 February 1967
stated · refuted
Reasoning
|| v1.1/l7/told-close: the delivery claim this was derived from (nid 1125, 1967-2-10) was refuted by the L7 adjudication (#2363). The corrected told claim from the same lecture stands at 1971-3-22. This row is retired rather than deleted so the derivation history remains readable.
17 October 1967
stated · refuted
Reasoning
|| v1.1/l7/told-close: the delivery claim this was derived from (nid 1293, 1967-10-17) was refuted by the L7 adjudication (#2363). The corrected told claim from the same lecture stands at 1966-10-17. This row is retired rather than deleted so the derivation history remains readable.
16 April 1970
stated · refuted
Reasoning
|| v1.1/l7/told-close: the delivery claim this was derived from (nid 1511, 1970-4-16) was refuted by the L7 adjudication (#2363). The corrected told claim from the same lecture stands at 1971-4-16. This row is retired rather than deleted so the derivation history remains readable.
Sources
Source
- Neville Goddard The Frank Carter Lectures (ngr37__carter — Frank Carter, first-hand)
- The Law: Your Choice and Risk ¶16 (That’s what I’ve been trying night after night to convince everyone who is here: that you, one day, will discover that you are actually, literally God the Father!)
- Christ in Man ¶15 (Standing before you tonight I can say, unschooled, unlettered, unknown, uneducated by human standards, yet scripture, the only reality in the world, has been fulfilled in me.)
- Order Then Wait 2 ¶21 (What I am telling you I could never have discovered through reason. I never could have found it in a book. It is in the Bible, but I didn’t see it until it happened.)
- The State of Paul: The Free Man ¶15 (But I’m quite sure he would have written the identical story as I’ve told you concerning that plan as it unfolded itself in me. It’s the same story.)
- God's Promise to Man ¶34 (Every word I have told you this night, I have experienced.)
- The Rock ¶19 (This I know from experience and speak to you with authority. The scribes speak from theory and speculation, but I speak with the authority gained from experience.)
- The Wisdom, Power, and Glory Buried in Us ¶18 (I have had all of the experiences that are now recorded in scripture concerning the Lord Jesus Christ - and I mean all of them; yet I am in a weak garment and will remain there until the day I take it off to return to my former state, glorified beyond wh…)
- The Mystery of Christmas ¶11 (I told them thy Word as I experienced it. I interpreted thy Word to them, and Father – they heard it. Some rejected it and some believed it.)
- John The Crown of Scripture ¶25 (So, this is the truth that I would share with you. I’ve experienced Scripture. I’ve experienced it from beginning to end.)