Neville tells an engineer who had never earned more than ten thousand a year to imagine himself already in the twenty-thousand-a-year job in a Madison Avenue building; within two weeks he had it, travelled the Near East building dams, and died five years later.
Date (happened)
c. 1950
estimated · probable · preferred
Why
M7 dating pass (529; 525's readers, packet 031)
Reasoning
The engineer got the Madison Avenue job within two weeks, worked abroad after the war and died five years later, all before the 1963-02-12 telling (passage 529545); the certain-dated chronology entry 15829 for the same story is c. 1950, which fits after 1945 and before 1958.
after 1945
bound · probable
Reasoning
v1.1/l0.5/retype/w1: type stated -> bound. The 1945 boundary comes from a separate real-world event, the end of the last world war, mentioned in passing to place the engineer anecdote -- the target event is not itself dated, only bounded via that other event, matching the Pavlova pattern.
No date
relative
Reasoning
Passage 529545 states directly and unambiguously that the engineer's Near East dam-building travel took place 'after this last world war' -- witness r3 rates this passage 'certain' for this event, and the phrase itself needs no interpretation to read as a relative bound. I am deliberately NOT converting 'this last world war' to an absolute year (e.g. 1945): the packet nowhere states which war this is or when it ended, and supplying that requires outside historical knowledge, which the brief instructs against. The relative claim itself is as solid as the text gets; the weakest link is only in resolving it to a calendar year, which I decline to do rather than launder a guess into a numeric field. This corroborates, with real passage text, the event's existing title ('Engineer travels the Near East building dams after World War II'), which appears to already embed the same 'World War II' interpretation -- so the title's implicit dating is at least directionally supported by direct testimony, even though I am not asserting the year myself.
between 1950 and 1955
estimated · possible
Why
M7 dating pass (529; 525's readers, packet 031)
Reasoning
Passage 529545: the job came within two weeks of the imagined scene, he then travelled the Near East on dams 'after this last world war', and 'had five years' before his death (before the 1963-02-12 telling). The same anecdote is dated c. 1950 in the chronology (15829); five years from there gives c. 1950-1955.
Told
12 February 1963
conclusion
Why
dc1-agreement-20261004, pm-actor-551 (PM 8702)
Reasoning
All 2 claims agree on 1963-02-12: node:1079; node:1079.
-
12 February 1963
estimated
Reasoning
Witness passage 529545 (confidence=certain per r3) sits within lecture 1079 ('Esau-Jacob-Israel'), delivered 1963-02-12. That delivery date is corroborated by two independent methods: a legacy catalog claim (hist_event 127, legacy_unreviewed) and a literal chrome title-and-byline dateline 'ESAU - JACOB - ISRAEL by Neville Goddard 2/12/ 63' recovered directly from the pre-Pass-0 transcript (agent_asserted) -- these agree independently, which earns 'certain' per the corroboration exception. Both links in this chain (witness fit and lecture date) are strong, so this told claim carries the full 'certain' rating. || v1.1 type repair: written as `stated` by run v1.1/l4/actor417/6000-6999-b1, retyped `estimated` — the claim cites node 1079, not a passage, so it is this lane's inference rather than something Neville said in so many words (#2117).
Sources
Source
- Esau-Jacob-Israel ¶8 (I said: “Al right, now stand in that elevator and go up, see it stop at the floor and get off, walk right into the place, take off your hat and jacket, and just simply be natural in the job.” Within two weeks he was on that job at twenty thousand a year.)