After finding the Acts 1 account of Judas's death, Carter phoned Neville (with Mrs. Goddard on the extension), told him the dream and said 'you're Judas'; Neville affirmed it, expounded the two scriptural traditions of Judas's death, and twice declar

After finding the Acts 1 account of Judas's death, Carter phoned Neville (with Mrs. Goddard on the extension), told him the dream and said 'you're Judas'; Neville affirmed it, expounded the two scriptural traditions of Judas's death, and twice declared that Judas betrayed the messianic secret. [Date evidence: the morning after Carter found the Judas passage in Acts 1; sometime between the death-vision (c. late 1960s) and Neville's death (Oct 1972) — no closer anchor] [Place: telephone call]

Date (happened)
between 1969 and 1 October 1972
unresolved
  1. between 1969 and 1 October 1972 estimated · possible · preferred
    Source Neville Goddard The Frank Carter LecturesCarter account: call followed the late-1960s death vision and preceded Neville's death
    Reasoning The call followed Carter's approximately late-1960s vision and occurred while Neville was alive; the source supports only a broad 1969 to pre-1972-10-01 window.
Place
Los Angeles possible
Verbatim (witness's words)

I got on the phone and I called him. I got his wife on the phone too, on the extension. I wanted her to hear this. I told him the dream and I said, you're Judas. And he said, yes. Judas betrayed the messianic secrets. He went on to say, God entered this world by committing suicide. ... Neville went on to say, In the Orient, the honorable suicide is to disembowel yourself. ... Before Neville hung up, he said once more, Judas betrayed the messianic secret.

Neville (as quoted): "Yes. Judas betrayed the messianic secrets. ... God entered this world by committing suicide. ... In the Orient, the honorable suicide is to disembowel yourself. ... Judas betrayed the messianic secret."

Told
  1. 31 October 1976 stated · preferred
    Source NGR ep.45, Carter lecture 5, 1976-10-31
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