Neville was taken one night into a world of beings who had not yet entered the shell, who called Earth 'Woodland' and refused to believe his account of it; Heine told him they did not believe a word, and when he was called back down only an ancient old woman would come with him.
Date (happened)
before July 1954
unresolved
before 1964
bound · possible
Reasoning
Qualifying passage ids [547619] belong to telling lecture nids [1875]. Each listed lecture contributes the selected safe envelope year 1964 (MAX of its non-refuted delivery years); 1964 is the MIN across telling lectures.
before 5 January 1965
bound
Source
bound from the telling lecture nid 1181 (1965-01-05)
Reasoning
The event is told in the past tense in nid 1181, delivered 1965-01-05 (that claim's confidence: certain, preferred), so it had happened by that date. This is the same premise phase4 L6a and L4.5 rest on, stated at the precision the evidence actually supports rather than as a fabricated year. It replaces nothing: the 1900 placeholder row remains, lowered, as the record of what phase3b did. `bound` is never `preferred`, so this does not change what the event displays.
before July 1954
bound
Reasoning
The passage places the Woodland experience at least five years before the explicitly named July 1959 child experience. Subtracting five years yields a firm upper bound before July 1954.
before July 1954
relative · probable
Reasoning
Neville anchors this vision himself against his own July 1959 experience (certain per hist_event 19520), stating it happened 'at least five years before' -- an explicit upper bound of circa July 1954.
c. 1900
stated · refuted
Reasoning
|| v1.1/l1.4/sentinel1900: year 1900 here is not a date. `corpus v1 / phase3b` emitted it as a placeholder for "unknown, sometime before the telling" whenever the speaker used a vague temporal phrase — this row's own source note is the phrase. The same sentinel was identified and converged on in run v1.1/l0.5/retype/w1-conv. It carried confidence `probable`, which no evidence supported. Lowered to `doubtful`; an honest `before 1965-01-05` bound is appended alongside from the telling lecture (nid 1181). Nothing deleted, no year invented. || v1.1/l1.4/sentinel1900-refute: REFUTED. This event involves Neville himself and he was born 1905-02-19 (event 950 delta 9, `certain` + `preferred`), so 1900 is not merely unsupported — it is impossible. The event now displays no date, which is the honest state: the `before` bound appended by v1.1/l1.4/sentinel1900 remains and is what is actually known. Row kept, not deleted.
Told / reported
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5 January 1965
estimated
Reasoning
Both the catalog claim and the removed chrome header agree exactly, with no conflicting claim on this lecture.
Sources
Source
- The Real Man ¶83 (I had an experience one night several years ago. I was taken into a world where they had not yet entered the shell, and they do not believe it. I told them of my experiences on Earth and they did not believe one word I said. They thought I was lying, bec…)
- Eternity Mans Mind ¶35 (When I returned to them and told them one night that I came from the world that I called Earth, and they called it Woodland, they couldn’t believe that anyone could ever return from Woodland.)