Neville visits beings who call Earth Woodland

Neville was taken one night into a world of beings who had not yet entered the shell, who called Earth 'Woodland' and refused to believe his account of it; Heine told him they did not believe a word, and when he was called back down only an ancient old woman would come with him.
Date (happened)
before July 1954
unresolved
  1. before 1964 bound · possible
    Source Eternity Mans Mind ¶35qualifying source passages 547619; telling lecture nids 1875
    Reasoning Qualifying passage ids [547619] belong to telling lecture nids [1875]. Each listed lecture contributes the selected safe envelope year 1964 (MAX of its non-refuted delivery years); 1964 is the MIN across telling lectures.
  2. before 5 January 1965 bound
    Source bound from the telling lecture nid 1181 (1965-01-05)
    Reasoning The event is told in the past tense in nid 1181, delivered 1965-01-05 (that claim's confidence: certain, preferred), so it had happened by that date. This is the same premise phase4 L6a and L4.5 rest on, stated at the precision the evidence actually supports rather than as a fabricated year. It replaces nothing: the 1900 placeholder row remains, lowered, as the record of what phase3b did. `bound` is never `preferred`, so this does not change what the event displays.
  3. before July 1954 bound
    Reasoning The passage places the Woodland experience at least five years before the explicitly named July 1959 child experience. Subtracting five years yields a firm upper bound before July 1954.
  4. before July 1954 relative · probable
    Source The Real Man ¶83passage 532470 (lecture nid 1181): 'I had the experience of the child in July of 1959. And my experience in this other world... was back at least five years before that.'
    Reasoning Neville anchors this vision himself against his own July 1959 experience (certain per hist_event 19520), stating it happened 'at least five years before' -- an explicit upper bound of circa July 1954.
  5. c. 1900 stated · refuted
    Source The Real Man ¶83"one night several years ago… back at least five years before that", told in The Real Man (nid 1181)
    Reasoning || v1.1/l1.4/sentinel1900: year 1900 here is not a date. `corpus v1 / phase3b` emitted it as a placeholder for "unknown, sometime before the telling" whenever the speaker used a vague temporal phrase — this row's own source note is the phrase. The same sentinel was identified and converged on in run v1.1/l0.5/retype/w1-conv. It carried confidence `probable`, which no evidence supported. Lowered to `doubtful`; an honest `before 1965-01-05` bound is appended alongside from the telling lecture (nid 1181). Nothing deleted, no year invented. || v1.1/l1.4/sentinel1900-refute: REFUTED. This event involves Neville himself and he was born 1905-02-19 (event 950 delta 9, `certain` + `preferred`), so 1900 is not merely unsupported — it is impossible. The event now displays no date, which is the honest state: the `before` bound appended by v1.1/l1.4/sentinel1900 remains and is what is actually known. Row kept, not deleted.
Place
Persons
Told / reported
  1. 5 January 1965 stated
    Source The Real ManThe Real Man (nid 1181), telling 1181-9, told 1965-01-05
  2. 5 January 1965 estimated
    Source The Real Mandelivery claim on lecture nid 1181 ('The Real Man'), catalog #248, corroborated by chrome header '1/5/65' (after rejecting a preceding WordPress post-stamp)
    Reasoning Both the catalog claim and the removed chrome header agree exactly, with no conflicting claim on this lecture.
Sources

Source

  • The Real Man ¶83 (I had an experience one night several years ago. I was taken into a world where they had not yet entered the shell, and they do not believe it. I told them of my experiences on Earth and they did not believe one word I said. They thought I was lying, bec…)
  • Eternity Mans Mind ¶35 (When I returned to them and told them one night that I came from the world that I called Earth, and they called it Woodland, they couldn’t believe that anyone could ever return from Woodland.)