Neville recalls waking from an earlier other-world experience by touch

He recalled an earlier, similar experience in which he had woken himself out of that other state by touching and holding an object and commanding himself to wake.
Date (happened)
before 1900
unresolved
  1. before 1900 bound · doubtful
    Source Test Him and See ¶2"years before", told in Test Him and See (nid 1468)
    Reasoning v1.1/l0.5/retype/w1-conv: type stated -> bound. Convergence of the w1 pass, which split on this exact shape — 25 rows with the 1900 sentinel year and a vague relative note were judged `stated` while 5 identical rows were judged `bound`. The 1900 here is a placeholder meaning "unknown, sometime before the telling", not a date any source stated; Neville was born in 1905, so "before 1900" is not a coherent bound on his own recollections. A claim whose year is that sentinel cannot be `stated`. Note the year itself remains wrong and is out of scope for L0.5, which may touch only `type` and `preferred` — reported separately. Source note as recorded: ""years before", told in Test Him and See (nid 1468)" || v1.1/l1.4/sentinel1900: year 1900 here is not a date. `corpus v1 / phase3b` emitted it as a placeholder for "unknown, sometime before the telling" whenever the speaker used a vague temporal phrase — this row's own source note is the phrase. The same sentinel was identified and converged on in run v1.1/l0.5/retype/w1-conv. It carried confidence `certain`, which no evidence supported. Lowered to `doubtful`; an honest `before 1969-07-25` bound is appended alongside from the telling lecture (nid 1468). Nothing deleted, no year invented.
  2. before 25 July 1969 bound · probable
    Source bound from the telling lecture nid 1468 (1969-07-25)
    Reasoning The event is told in the past tense in nid 1468, delivered 1969-07-25 (that claim's confidence: probable, preferred), so it had happened by that date. This is the same premise phase4 L6a and L4.5 rest on, stated at the precision the evidence actually supports rather than as a fabricated year. It replaces nothing: the 1900 placeholder row remains, lowered, as the record of what phase3b did. `bound` is never `preferred`, so this does not change what the event displays.
Persons
Told / reported
  1. 25 June 1969 stated · doubtful
    Source Test Him and SeeTest Him and See (nid 1468), telling 1468-1, told 1969-06-25
  2. 25 June 1969 stated · doubtful
    Source Test Him and SeeTest Him and See (nid 1468), telling 1468-1, told 1969-06-25
    Why Corrects the confidence of the told claim written by run `corpus v1 / phase3b` at delta 0 on this event; that claim is left standing per append-only. Ceiling rule #2132.
    Reasoning Confidence only; the date is not re-adjudicated and is left exactly as written. This claim is derived from the delivery claims of node 1468 and asserts `certain`, but the strongest claim that node carries is `probable`, so there is nothing for `certain` to inherit from. nid 1468 delivery claims: 1969-6-25 doubtful; 1969-7-25 probable. Walked back to `probable`, the ceiling. Whether the DATE is right is a separate question this row does not touch; if the evidence turns out to support more confidence, it will have to come from a source other than this node.
  3. 25 July 1969 estimated · probable
    Source Test Him and Seecurrent preferred delivery claim on Test Him and See (nid 1468): 1969-07-25 probable
    Reasoning At packet-read time nid 1468's preferred byline-derived delivery claim is 1969-07-25 probable; this telling inherits that date and confidence. Earlier 1969-06-25 told rows remain append-only.
Sources

Source

  • Test Him and See ¶2 (Then I remembered what I did years before, when I had a similar experience and it was all based upon feeling; and I could touch something, and I held what I touched and made myself awake.)