On waking that morning Neville met his recently dead friend Al Olstrom in a railroad station, unchanged, having a snack; he recounts how Al died suddenly at sixty-four after going over seventeen items with his wife Muriel, and how Al, a Swede who worked for Standard Oil of California, enjoyed Neville's social company but would never accept his teaching.
Date (happened)
14 November 1969
unresolved
14 November 1969
stated · preferred
14 November 1969
relative · doubtful
Source
passage 542574 (lecture nid 1637), 'This morning as I was waking, I met my friend Al, who died at the age of 64.'
Why
Sibling passage 542575, the later railroad-station meeting with the same Al, is covered by hist_event:17378, not this event.
Reasoning
'This morning' anchors the vision to the day of the lecture itself. The lecture's own delivery date is unsettled between two candidates over five years apart: catalog #179 (1964-01-17, downgraded to doubtful as contradicted by the lecture's own chrome) and the chrome dateline itself (1969-11-14, probable). I take 1969-11-14 as the better-supported reading, but confidence is capped at probable per the inheritance rule since neither delivery claim on this lecture is certain. || v1.1/l7/preferred-refuted-source/odd-c1: source lecture refutes this date; lowered to doubtful and removed preferred after event/source read. Passage542574 explicitly says this morning, so the vision shares the lecture day. The sole surviving nid1637 delivery is 1964-01-17 doubtful; duplicate proposals remain proposals and no merge is performed.
17 January 1964
relative · doubtful
Source
Source lecture nid 1637 surviving delivery after L7 adjudication; actual event passage read under #2658.
Why
Sibling passage 542575, the later railroad-station meeting with the same Al, is covered by hist_event:17378, not this event.
Reasoning
Passage542574 explicitly says this morning, so the vision shares the lecture day. The sole surviving nid1637 delivery is 1964-01-17 doubtful; duplicate proposals remain proposals and no merge is performed. || v1.1/l7/preferred-refuted-source/odd-c2 CORRECTION: nid1637 now has both 1964-01-17 and 1969-11-14 refuted; no supported day remains. Preferred cleared; event fact retained doubtful.
14 November 1969
estimated
Reasoning
Passage 541246 explicitly anchors Neville's waking vision of Al to 'this morning.' Lecture node 1501's exact 1969-11-14 delivery is independently supported by catalogue #621 and the pre-strip 11/14/69 chrome dateline. Zero-offset 'this morning' therefore computes to 1969-11-14 at certain confidence.
17 January 1964
stated · refuted
Source
"This morning as I was waking", told in The True Knowledge (nid 1637)
Reasoning
|| v1.1/l7/passage-inherit: lowered `certain` -> `doubtful`. This date was inherited from lecture node 1637, whose own 1964-01-17 delivery claim has been refuted, and no other node in the corpus holds that date live — so the only witness for this date is one the corpus has disproved. Lowered, never refuted (#2461 §1 rule (b)): what collapsed is the evidence for WHEN, not the event. This row was reached through a PASSAGE source, which every earlier rule-(b) pass was structurally blind to. || v1.1/l7/preferred-refuted-source/c2: fourth-question adjudication found this is a transcript-tied false date, not an independently evidenced night; This morning only anchors the account to nid 1637, whose candidate dates are both refuted; no exact event date survives.
Told / reported
14 November 1969
conclusion
Why
dc1-agreement-20261004, pm-actor-551 (PM 8702)
Reasoning
1 claim, no conflict: 1969-11-14 (node:1501).
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14 November 1969
stated · refuted
Source
delivery claim d1 on lecture nid 1637: chrome dateline 'Neville Goddard 11-14-1969', probable; the catalog's d0 (1964-01-17) is downgraded to doubtful, contradicted by this same chrome by more than five years.
Reasoning
The lecture in which this vision is narrated, 'The True Knowledge', has no certain delivery claim — the document-native chrome dateline (1969-11-14) is the stronger of the two conflicting candidates but is itself only probable given the unusually large discrepancy with the catalog claim, so field_told is capped at probable. || v1.1/l7/told-close: the delivery claim this was derived from (nid 1637, 1969-11-14) was refuted by the L7 adjudication (#2363). The corrected told claim from the same lecture stands at 1964-1-17. This row is retired rather than deleted so the derivation history remains readable.
17 January 1964
estimated · refuted
Source
nid 1637 surviving delivery claim after refutation. All claims: 1964-1-17 doubtful (preferred); 1969-11-14 refuted
Why
Lane L7 (#2354) re-derivation. Supersedes in substance, not in storage, the refuted-date told claim(s) on this event; those rows stand per append-only.
Reasoning
Re-derived, not walked down. The existing told claim(s) on this event took their date from a delivery claim on node 1637 that the corpus has since REFUTED, so the corpus was asserting that Neville told this on a day it separately says he did not lecture. That is a contradiction rather than an over-confidence, and lowering the confidence would have hidden it instead of resolving it. The refutation stands and the told claim is the wrong side of it. Node 1637 surviving (non-refuted) claim: 1964-1-17 at `doubtful`. All claims on the node: 1964-1-17 doubtful (preferred); 1969-11-14 refuted. Superseded here: delta 0: 1969-11-14 at `probable` (run `v1.1/l4/w4`). The telling is dated by its lecture, so with the refuted date removed from consideration the surviving claim is what the telling inherits, at that claim own confidence and no higher.
17 January 1964
stated · refuted
Source
The True Knowledge (nid 1637), telling 1637-1, told 1964-01-17
Reasoning
|| v1.1/l7/told-lower: lowered `certain` -> `doubtful`. The telling-date 1964-01-17 is refuted on the source lecture (nid 1637) and no live claim on that node supports it, so the corpus can no longer say WHEN this was told. ⛔ The row is KEPT, not retired: it also records THAT nid 1637 tells this event, which is true and checkable from the passages, and retiring it would discard that with the date.
Sources
Source
- Experience the Mystery of Christ ¶11 (So I met the Al that I knew here and he hadn’t changed one iota. He’s the same Al…and he’s in me. Where else would I have met him this morning? I was coming back from the depth of my soul.)
- Experience the Mystery of Christ ¶11 (This morning as I was waking, I met my friend Al, who died at the age of 64. He was the same Al I knew here.)