Autobiographical memory recalled by Neville in his lectures. Year derived: age 20 + birth 1905 = 1925. Told 1 time (1964). Judged his own (not a retold third-party story) by the whose_age adjudication.
Date (happened)
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c. 1925
stated · possible
Source
age 20 + birth 1905 = 1925 (1 statement, told 1964)
c. 1926
stated · probable
c. 1925
stated · probable
between 1926 and 1933
estimated · probable
Source
passages 526777, 532490, 556365: seven-year discipline ending on the 1933 Barbados return voyage
Reasoning
Three independent tellings give a seven-year duration. Passage 556365 states that it ended with the 1933 Barbados trip, placing the regime approximately from 1926 through 1933; the sources do not justify exact start or end days.
between 1926 and 1933
estimated · probable
Why
See hist_event:1746 d4 for the full cross-telling derivation this range is drawn from.
Reasoning
He describes a seven-year vegetarian discipline overlapping his dancing career. hist_event:1746 already cites this exact passage among its sources and, in a prior L4 investigation (run v1.1/l4/w2), synthesized three independent seven-year tellings into a derived range of circa 1926-1933, anchored by other passages placing the regime's end at his 1933 Barbados return voyage. Reusing that established, better-corroborated range here rather than re-deriving a weaker one from this passage alone.
Told / reported
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9 December 1968
stated · doubtful
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3 April 1972
stated
Reasoning
Passage 526777 is in lecture 59; recovered chrome establishes 1972-04-03 and the earlier 1972-03-03 catalogue row is doubtful.
12 January 1965
stated
Reasoning
Passage 532490 is in lecture 1183, dated 1965-01-12 certain.
after 6 December 1933
bound · doubtful
Reasoning
Passage 556365 is in lecture 3963; its only delivery evidence is an after-1933-12-06 bound, which this told claim preserves.
4 November 1968
estimated
Why
Lane L7 (#2354) re-derivation. Supersedes in substance, not in storage, the refuted-date told claim(s) on this event; those rows stand per append-only.
Reasoning
Re-derived, not walked down. The existing told claim(s) on this event took their date from a delivery claim on node 1394 that the corpus has since REFUTED, so the corpus was asserting that Neville told this on a day it separately says he did not lecture. That is a contradiction rather than an over-confidence, and lowering the confidence would have hidden it instead of resolving it. The refutation stands and the told claim is the wrong side of it. Node 1394 surviving (non-refuted) claim: 1968-11-4 at `certain`. All claims on the node: 1968-11-4 certain; 1969-10-16 refuted; 1968-11-4 certain (preferred). Superseded here: delta 1: 1969-10-16 at `certain` (run `corpus v1 / phase3b`). The telling is dated by its lecture, so with the refuted date removed from consideration the surviving claim is what the telling inherits, at that claim own confidence and no higher.
6 December 1968
estimated
Reasoning
The existing certain told claim from this lecture (1968-12-09) rests on the pre-chrome catalogue date; the lecture's own recovered chrome dateline gives 1968-12-06 at certain confidence, contradicting only the day (9 vs 6). Adding the corrected telling date beside the stale one per append-only.
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18 October 1971
estimated
Reasoning
The existing certain told claim from this lecture carries only the bare year 1971, from the original catalogue pass. The lecture's own recovered chrome dateline sharpens this to the exact day 1971-10-18 at certain confidence. Adding the sharpened telling date beside the coarser one per append-only.
4 November 1968
estimated · probable
Reasoning
This lecture retells the same seven-year vegetarian/celibacy/Barbados story (passage 543658) and had never had a told claim recorded for this event. Its own preferred delivery claim, from a recovered chrome dateline, is 1968-11-04 at probable confidence; the told claim inherits that ceiling and no higher.
13 January 1969
estimated · probable
Reasoning
This lecture references the same seven-year vow (passage 551361, temporal reference) and had never had a told claim recorded for this event. Its own preferred delivery claim, from a recovered chrome dateline, is 1969-01-13 at probable confidence; the told claim inherits that ceiling and no higher.
16 October 1969
stated · refuted
Reasoning
|| v1.1/l7/told-close: the delivery claim this was derived from (nid 1394, 1969-10-16) was refuted by the L7 adjudication (#2363). The corrected told claim from the same lecture stands at 1968-11-4. This row is retired rather than deleted so the derivation history remains readable.
Sources
Source
- The One Greater Than John ¶3 ("at the age of twenty" (lecture, 1964))
- Predestined Glory ¶3 (I thought maybe a certain diet, like a strict vegetarian . . maybe that would do it. I tried that.)
- No Other Foundation ¶21 (Then one day before leaving for Barbados, my friend Ab said to me: “You will die, but you will not surely die.” His prophecy proved to be true, for when I returned, I had died to everything I had not done for the previous seven years.)
- Partakers of the Divine Nature ¶29 (When I was a strict vegetarian for seven years, I went to Toronto and my friend who was our host, I was in her home, and she could ill-afford the meal that she put down that night, a lovely salmon.)
- Build on the Only Foundation: Jesus Christ ¶17 (And then one day, as my old friend Ab told me in advance, “You are about to die…but you will not really die. You’re going to Barbados and when you return you will have died. Everything that you have not done as of now…when you are back you will have done…)
- Poor Brother Donkey ¶26 (I was told to become a vegetarian, so I became a vegetarian for my soul’s sake. When I went into a restaurant, I was a dancer in those days, I would ask the waiter, “Does the soup have beef stock?”)