Neville redeems a monstrous creation in vision

In the early thirties Neville saw in vision a glorious heavenly woman and, below her, a hairy monstrous creature that called her its mother; he beat it and it grew stronger on the violence, until he recognised both as his own creations, pledged to redeem the monster, and watched it dissolve and its energy return to him.
Date (happened)
between 1930 and 1934
unresolved
  1. between 1930 and 1934 stated · preferred
    Source How Interpret Scripture ¶6"an experience of many years ago. It’s almost…well, back in the early thirties", told in How Interpret Scripture (nid 1891)
  2. between 1925 and 1935 estimated · possible
    Source The Purpose of Life Is to Fulfill the Word of God ("God's Word") ¶5passage 536528 (lecture nid 1305), 'let me give you an experience of mine that happened when I was in my twenties'
    Why No corroborating second telling found; range only.
    Reasoning Neville places the vision in his own twenties; he was born 19 February 1905, so his twenties span February 1925 to February 1935. The passage gives no narrower marker, so the range stands as-is rather than a false midpoint.
  3. between 1930 and 1934 stated · probable
    Source 'Back in the early 1930s'
    Reasoning Neville directly places the vision in the early 1930s; 1930-1934 preserves that stated precision.
  4. between 1930 and 1933 stated · probable
    Source passage 538987 (lecture nid 1393), 'Back in the early 1930's I suddenly found myself confronted with two characters'
    Reasoning Neville directly states the era himself ('the early 1930's'), read as 1930-1933; kept at probable rather than certain because it is an imprecise decade recollection given many years later, with no specific year or age marker to sharpen it.
  5. between 1930 and 1934 stated
    Source "Back in the early 1930’s", told in The Role of the Book (nid 1393)
  6. between 1925 and 1934 stated
    Source The Promise Is the Fulfillment of God's Word ¶5"When I was in my twenties", told in The Promise Is the Fulfillment of God's Word (nid 2078)
Place
New York City possible
Persons
Neville Goddard
Told / reported
  1. 13 November 1967 estimated
    Source The Purpose of Life Is to Fulfill the Word of God ("God's Word")delivery claim on lecture nid 1305 ("The Purpose of Life Is to Fulfill the Word of God")
    Why d0 and d1 agree; cited the transcript-sourced claim (node:1305) per the general preference for transcript evidence.
    Reasoning The witnessing passage belongs to lecture nid 1305. Both of the lecture's delivery claims (d0 catalog #388, d1 the transcript's own '11/13/67' chrome dateline) independently agree on 1967-11-13 at certain confidence, so there is no conflict to resolve and no catalogue-vs-transcript override needed.
  2. 1 November 1968 estimated
    Source certain delivery claim on lecture 1393
    Reasoning Derived telling date from lecture 1393 containing passages 538986-538988.
  3. 14 June 1971 estimated
    Source The Dweller on the Thresholdcertain delivery claim on lecture 1532
    Reasoning Derived telling date from lecture 1532 containing passages 542036-542038.
  4. 1 November 1968 stated
    Source The Role of the Book (nid 1393), telling 1393-0, told 1968-11-01
  5. 13 November 1967 estimated · probable
    Source The Promise Is the Fulfillment of God's Wordnid 2078 surviving delivery claim after refutation. All claims: 1971-3-10 refuted; 1972-3-27 refuted; 1967-11-13 probable (preferred)
    Why Lane L7 (#2354) re-derivation. Supersedes in substance, not in storage, the refuted-date told claim(s) on this event; those rows stand per append-only.
    Reasoning Re-derived, not walked down. The existing told claim(s) on this event took their date from a delivery claim on node 2078 that the corpus has since REFUTED, so the corpus was asserting that Neville told this on a day it separately says he did not lecture. That is a contradiction rather than an over-confidence, and lowering the confidence would have hidden it instead of resolving it. The refutation stands and the told claim is the wrong side of it. Node 2078 surviving (non-refuted) claim: 1967-11-13 at `probable`. All claims on the node: 1971-3-10 refuted; 1972-3-27 refuted; 1967-11-13 probable (preferred). Superseded here: delta 0: 1972-03-27 at `certain` (run `corpus v1 / phase3b`) | delta 1: 1972-03-27 at `probable` (run `v1.1/l4/ceiling/c2`). The telling is dated by its lecture, so with the refuted date removed from consideration the surviving claim is what the telling inherits, at that claim own confidence and no higher.
  6. 27 March 1972 stated · refuted
    Source The Promise Is the Fulfillment of God's WordThe Promise Is the Fulfillment of God's Word (nid 2078), telling 2078-1, told 1972-03-27
    Reasoning || v1.1/l7/told-close: the delivery claim this was derived from (nid 2078, 1972-3-27) was refuted by the L7 adjudication (#2363). The corrected told claim from the same lecture stands at 1967-11-13. This row is retired rather than deleted so the derivation history remains readable.
Sources

Source

  • How Interpret Scripture ¶6 (I suddenly found myself confronted with these two characters, one the most glorious, divine woman that eyes could ever set upon, she was above, a beautiful angelic being; and here below is this monstrous thing covered in hair. It looked like an orangutan…)
  • How Interpret Scripture ¶7 (Back in the early 1930’s I suddenly found myself confronted with two characters. Above me and to my right stood a beautiful angelic being, while below stood a monstrous hairy animal which looked like an orangutan. Speaking in a guttural voice he looked u…)
  • The Promise Is the Fulfillment of God's Word ¶5 (When I was in my twenties I found myself in the presence of the most beautiful woman I could ever perceive, and a horrible, hairy monster which resembled an ape or a gorilla.)