Neville recalls living for thirteen years and eight months with his family of three in a duplex penthouse on the 15th and 16th floors of 145 W. 55th Street, with a playroom and a garden upstairs.
Date (happened)
between September 1943 and April 1957
unresolved
between September 1943 and April 1957
estimated · probable · preferred
Reasoning
moved in September 1943: "back in 1943 when I came out of the Army I was looking for an apartment ... a duplex in the heart of Manhattan ... I paid the month of September and October" (p543929); "we as a little family of three lived for thirteen years and eight months, 145 W. 55th Street" (p548098, lecture 1965-02-23), so to about May 1957; the family flew Barbados to New York 1957-01-05 (20420) and Neville arrived in Hollywood from New York 1957-04-29 (1679, 20339)
thirteen years and eight months
relative · probable
c. 1943
estimated · possible
Why
Apartment 15-C; superintendent Eddie Fox.
Reasoning
The source supplies duration and an approximate start, not an exact move-in date, so the date remains estimated and non-preferred.
between 1943 and 1957
estimated · probable
Source
passages 540308/540309 (lecture nid 1460), 'Back in 1943 when I came out of the army I was looking for an apartment' ... 'we remained there almost fourteen years'
Reasoning
Neville dates moving into the apartment directly to 1943, coinciding with his coming out of the army (matches the corpus's Army-discharge anchor, March 1943, passage 528488) and says they stayed 'almost fourteen years', which places the end of the tenancy circa 1957. Start year is stated directly; end year is computed by adding the approximate duration. Confidence held at probable because the underlying army-period recollection is Neville's own account decades later, not a record, and 'almost fourteen years' is approximate.
between September 1943 and 1957
bound · probable
Why
'Almost fourteen years' is not a precise duration; the end year (1957) is an upper approximation, not a stated date.
Reasoning
Neville dates finding and moving into the duplex to 1943, with the lease retroactively effective September 1, 1943. He says they stayed 'almost fourteen years', which places the end of the tenancy at approximately 1957 (fourteen years from September 1943), though 'almost' means it may fall slightly short of that.
before 1970
bound · possible
Reasoning
Qualifying passage ids [541583] belong to telling lecture nids [1511]. Each listed lecture contributes the selected safe envelope year 1970 (MAX of its non-refuted delivery years); 1970 is the MIN across telling lectures.
before 1971
bound · possible
Why
Corrects the phase4 L6a envelope on this event from before 1970 to before 1971.
Reasoning
Envelope recompute, arithmetic only. The phase4 L6a row on this event states its own rule: each telling lecture contributes MAX of its non-refuted delivery years, and the envelope is the MIN across telling lectures. Recomputed live over lecture nid(s) 1511 that row cites, MAX(non-refuted field_delivery_year) gives 1971, not the 1970 the row carries — the bound was below its own stated rule and therefore UNSAFE: it asserted the event did not happen in 1 year(s) where it may sit. Same premise, same evidence, no re-reading and no re-judgement; only the maximum was taken correctly. The L6a row stands beside this one (append-only). Ruling: #2235 delta 1, architect 378.
Told / reported
23 February 1965
estimated · probable
Reasoning
Passage 548098 is Neville himself recalling his family's thirteen-years-and-eight-months residence at 145 W. 55th Street, as part of the dream/amnesia experience he narrates in this lecture. The lecture containing it (nid 1895) has two agreeing delivery claims converging on 1965-02-23 at probable confidence; the telling inherits that same date and confidence.
23 February 1965
estimated · probable
Source
nid 3960 surviving delivery claim after refutation. All claims: 1948-??-?? refuted; 1965-2-23 probable (preferred)
Why
Lane L7 (#2354) re-derivation. Supersedes in substance, not in storage, the refuted-date told claim(s) on this event; those rows stand per append-only.
Reasoning
Re-derived, not walked down. The existing told claim(s) on this event took their date from a delivery claim on node 3960 that the corpus has since REFUTED, so the corpus was asserting that Neville told this on a day it separately says he did not lecture. That is a contradiction rather than an over-confidence, and lowering the confidence would have hidden it instead of resolving it. The refutation stands and the told claim is the wrong side of it. Node 3960 surviving (non-refuted) claim: 1965-2-23 at `probable`. All claims on the node: 1948-??-?? refuted; 1965-2-23 probable (preferred). Superseded here: delta 0: 1948-00-00 at `certain` (run `v1.1/l4/w1/D1`). The telling is dated by its lecture, so with the refuted date removed from consideration the surviving claim is what the telling inherits, at that claim own confidence and no higher.
6 June 1969
estimated · probable
Source
delivery claim on lecture nid 1460 (1969-06-06, probable, chrome dateline; outranks the demoted 1969-06-10 catalogue row per the node's own preferred-move)
Reasoning
The apartment story is recounted within lecture 1460 itself, whose better-supported delivery date is 1969-06-06 at probable confidence; this is the telling date, capped at probable by the inheritance ceiling from the delivery claim.
6 June 1969
stated · probable
Reasoning
d0 and d1 are consistent, not conflicting: d0 establishes 1969 with certain confidence from internal content, and d1 sharpens that to 1969-06-06. The day precision comes from d1's probable-confidence chrome dateline, so the combined claim is capped at probable.
16 April 1971
estimated
Why
Lane L7 (#2354) re-derivation. Supersedes in substance, not in storage, the refuted-date told claim(s) on this event; those rows stand per append-only.
Reasoning
Re-derived, not walked down. The existing told claim(s) on this event took their date from a delivery claim on node 1511 that the corpus has since REFUTED, so the corpus was asserting that Neville told this on a day it separately says he did not lecture. That is a contradiction rather than an over-confidence, and lowering the confidence would have hidden it instead of resolving it. The refutation stands and the told claim is the wrong side of it. Node 1511 surviving (non-refuted) claim: 1971-4-16 at `certain`. All claims on the node: 1970-4-16 refuted; 1971-4-16 certain (preferred). Superseded here: delta 0: 1970-04-16 at `certain` (run `corpus v1 / phase3b`). The telling is dated by its lecture, so with the refuted date removed from consideration the surviving claim is what the telling inherits, at that claim own confidence and no higher.
after 1948
estimated · refuted
Source
delivery claim d0 on lecture nid 3960 (The Dreamer), 1948-??-?? bound/after/certain, from his father's 1948 American visit and first lecture attendance, recounted as completed
Reasoning
Passage 556269 is Neville narrating, in the lecture itself, his dream of the 145 West 55th Street penthouse where his family lived thirteen years and eight months. The lecture's only delivery claim is a certain floor ('after 1948'); the telling date inherits that same bound and confidence. || v1.1/l7/told-lower: lowered `certain` -> `doubtful`. The telling-date 1948-??-?? is refuted on the source lecture (nid 3960) and no live claim on that node supports it, so the corpus can no longer say WHEN this was told. ⛔ The row is KEPT, not retired: it also records THAT nid 3960 tells this event, which is true and checkable from the passages, and retiring it would discard that with the date.
16 April 1970
stated · refuted
Reasoning
|| v1.1/l7/told-close: the delivery claim this was derived from (nid 1511, 1970-4-16) was refuted by the L7 adjudication (#2363). The corrected told claim from the same lecture stands at 1971-4-16. This row is retired rather than deleted so the derivation history remains readable.
Sources
Source
- The Dreamer ¶2 (I found myself in the apartment house where we as a little family of three lived for thirteen years and eight months, 145 W. 55th Street.)
- Nature God Revealed Us ¶24 (Neville: in 1943, out of the Army, a duplex in the heart of Manhattan; he paid September and October)
- Order Then Wait 2 ¶34 (Neville: "the last apartment we had before we moved out here, we lived almost fourteen years in that apartment ... a seven-room apartment, a duplex")
- The Dreamer ¶2 (I found myself in the apartment house where we, as a little family of three, lived for 13 years and 8 months — 145 West 55th Street.)
- The Dreamer ¶2 (I found myself in the apartment house where we as a little family of three lived for 13 years and 8 months 145 West 55th Street.)
- Goddards Homes West Hollywood New York (The Dreamer excerpt and residence table)
- Nature God Revealed Us ¶24 (Neville's account of finding the duplex in 1943 and the rent mix-up)
- Nature God Revealed Us ¶25 ('we were there almost fourteen years')
- Order Then Wait 2 ¶34 (having lived in one apartment in New York City for fourteen years . . the last apartment we had before we moved out here, we lived almost fourteen years in that apartment. It was a seven-room apartment . . a duplex. I had no idea what junk we stored over…)