David calls Neville Lord and Father

Neville recounts his own visionary experience in which David in the Spirit called him 'my Lord' and 'Father', and he recognised it as a returning memory.
Date (happened)
6 December 1959
unresolved
  1. 6 December 1959 estimated · probable · preferred
    Source Imagination's Power ¶39Passage 544565 identifies David calling the experiencer Father 139 days after Neville's 1959-07-20 awakening; passage 550477 identifies this event as Neville's same David/Father vision.
    Reasoning Passage 550477 uniquely identifies Neville's vision in which David calls him Lord and Father. Passage 544565 gives the same sequence in Neville's first person and places David's appearance 139 days after his 1959-07-20 awakening. Adding 139 days yields 1959-12-06. The identification is strong and independently represented by canonical event 7945, but the day is computed rather than directly spoken, so confidence remains probable. This exact estimate substantively supersedes the existing coarse delivery envelope.
  2. before 1970 bound · possible
    Source Hope Deferred ¶24qualifying source passages 550477; telling lecture nids 1971
    Reasoning Qualifying passage ids [550477] belong to telling lecture nids [1971]. Each listed lecture contributes the selected safe envelope year 1970 (MAX of its non-refuted delivery years); 1970 is the MIN across telling lectures.
  3. before 1970 bound · possible
    Source qualifying source passages 553645; telling lecture nids 2132
    Reasoning Qualifying passage ids [553645] belong to telling lecture nids [2132]. Each listed lecture contributes the selected safe envelope year 1970 (MAX of its non-refuted delivery years); 1970 is the MIN across telling lectures.
Told / reported
  1. 1970 stated
    Source Hope DeferredHope Deferred (nid 1971), telling 1971-3, told 1970
  2. 1970 estimated
    Source Hope DeferredHope Deferred carrier node 1971; authoritative preferred delivery claim is year 1970 exact/certain.
    Reasoning The telling occurs in node 1971, whose authoritative preferred delivery claim remains 1970 exact/certain after L7 review. A told date inherited from a lecture node is typed estimated even when the underlying delivery claim is stated. The existing 1970 told row has the right value but is typed stated, so this row supersedes it in semantic type without editing it. The separately derived 1959 occurrence date does not consume this carrier anchor.
  3. 11 December 1970 estimated · probable
    Source delivery claim on lecture nid 2132 'Hope Deferred' -- internal schedule inference (child's letter dated 7 December, series reopening 11 January), supported
    Reasoning Passage 553645 is Neville himself recounting, in first person, his own experience of David in the spirit calling him 'my lord' and 'father'; this is the telling. The lecture containing it, nid 2132, is dated 1970-12-11 by its sole delivery claim (exact/probable, internal schedule inference). The telling inherits that same precision and confidence.
Sources

Source

  • Hope Deferred ¶24 (And David in the Spirit called me “my Lord.” Now, David in the Spirit will call everyone in this world, when he awakes, “my Lord.”)
  • Hope Deferred ¶24 (And David in the spirit called me my lord.)

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