He says that God has already begotten himself in him, so that he is he — not arrogance, since he did not do it — and that all his past suffering across unnumbered centuries is mercifully hidden from his memory.
Date (happened)
before 1961
bound · possible
Reasoning
Qualifying passage ids [550874] belong to telling lecture nids [1984]. Each listed lecture contributes the selected safe envelope year 1961 (MAX of its non-refuted delivery years); 1961 is the MIN across telling lectures.
before 1963
bound · possible
Why
Corrects the phase4 L6a envelope on this event from before 1961 to before 1963.
Reasoning
Envelope recompute, arithmetic only. The phase4 L6a row on this event states its own rule: each telling lecture contributes MAX of its non-refuted delivery years, and the envelope is the MIN across telling lectures. Recomputed live over lecture nid(s) 1984 that row cites, MAX(non-refuted field_delivery_year) gives 1963, not the 1961 the row carries — the bound was below its own stated rule and therefore UNSAFE: it asserted the event did not happen in 2 year(s) where it may sit. Same premise, same evidence, no re-reading and no re-judgement; only the maximum was taken correctly. The L6a row stands beside this one (append-only). Ruling: #2235 delta 1, architect 378.
before 3 May 1963
bound
Why
Append-only precise bound beside retained earlier envelopes.
Reasoning
The completed-action wording establishes occurrence before recounting. The authoritative exact/certain carrier date supplies the strongest safe upper bound and supersedes the coarse envelope rows.
Sources
Source
- The Shaping of the Unbegotten ¶39 (As I stand before you, and this is not arrogance on my part, for I did not do it, and yet in another way, I did. For when he begot himself in me, I am he.)
1 tellings, oldest first. A date in brackets shows how it is known; "circa", "after" and "possible" dates are rough.
| Date |
Lecture or book |
Telling |
Passage |
| 1963-05-03 [exact/certain/final] |
The Shaping of the Unbegotten |
So I create from these eternal forms, and they exist forever. Now, God is actually in you, in me, begetting himself. As I stand before you, and this is not arrogance on my part, for I did not do it, and yet in another way, I did. For when he begot himself in me, I am he. And so all the suffering that I have gone through throughout unnumbered centuries up to this moment, which in his infinite mercy, he keeps from me, so I would have no memory of the past, all the suffering. “For whom God afflicts for secret ends, he then comforts and heals and calls them friends.” |
550874 |