Herbert Hoover requests Awakened Imagination from Neville

Herbert Hoover sent Neville a signed pamphlet thanking him for his concept of Imagination and asked for a copy of Awakened Imagination to put in his library at Stanford; Neville sent the book, then gave the signed pamphlet to Elmer Petersen of the NBC news department, who never returned it. They never met, and were only brought together by mutual friends.
Date (happened)
1960
certain
  1. 1960 conclusion
    Why dc1-agreement-20261004, pm-actor-551 (PM 8702)
    Reasoning All 4 claims agree on 1960: passage:535797; passage:535909; passage:538496; phase-2 canonical event (fingerprint references).
  2. 1960 stated · preferred
    Source Imagining Creates Reality ¶32"I think the year was 1958, no, 1960", told in Imagining Creates Reality (nid 1281)
  3. before 1967 bound · possible
    Source The New Christology ¶34qualifying source passages 535909; telling lecture nids 1284
    Reasoning Qualifying passage ids [535909] belong to telling lecture nids [1284]. Each listed lecture contributes the selected safe envelope year 1967 (MAX of its non-refuted delivery years); 1967 is the MIN across telling lectures.
  4. before 1968 bound · possible
    Source There Is No Other God ¶17qualifying source passages 538496; telling lecture nids 1373
    Reasoning Qualifying passage ids [538496] belong to telling lecture nids [1373]. Each listed lecture contributes the selected safe envelope year 1968 (MAX of its non-refuted delivery years); 1968 is the MIN across telling lectures.
  5. 1960 stated · probable
    Source phase-2 canonical event (fingerprint references)
Place
San Francisco
Persons
Herbert Hoover
Elmer Petersen
Neville Goddard
Told / reported
  1. 22 September 1967 stated
    Source The New ChristologyThe New Christology (nid 1284), telling 1284-4, told 1967-09-22
  2. 16 July 1968 stated
    Source There Is No Other GodThere Is No Other God (nid 1373), telling 1373-1, told 1968-07-16
  3. 3 June 1968 estimated
    Source Imagining Creates Realitynid 1281 surviving delivery claim after refutation. All claims: 1967-9-11 refuted; 1968-6-3 certain (preferred)
    Why Lane L7 (#2354) re-derivation. Supersedes in substance, not in storage, the refuted-date told claim(s) on this event; those rows stand per append-only.
    Reasoning Re-derived, not walked down. The existing told claim(s) on this event took their date from a delivery claim on node 1281 that the corpus has since REFUTED, so the corpus was asserting that Neville told this on a day it separately says he did not lecture. That is a contradiction rather than an over-confidence, and lowering the confidence would have hidden it instead of resolving it. The refutation stands and the told claim is the wrong side of it. Node 1281 surviving (non-refuted) claim: 1968-6-3 at `certain`. All claims on the node: 1967-9-11 refuted; 1968-6-3 certain (preferred). Superseded here: delta 0: 1967-09-11 at `certain` (run `corpus v1 / phase3b`). The telling is dated by its lecture, so with the refuted date removed from consideration the surviving claim is what the telling inherits, at that claim own confidence and no higher.
  4. 15 April 1968 estimated · probable
    Source Jacob's Ladder: ChristJacob's Ladder: Christ (nid 2028), delivery 1968-04-15 probable
    Reasoning Passage 551906 is a witness to this event and belongs to lecture nid 2028. That carrier has a supported exact delivery claim of 1968-04-15 at probable confidence, so the telling inherits that date and no higher confidence. Under PM #3532/#3535, a newly node-derived told claim is typed stated; uncertainty is carried by confidence. || v1.1 type repair: written as `stated` by run v1.1/l4/actor402/18500-18999-b8, retyped `estimated` — the claim cites node 2028, not a passage, so it is this lane's inference rather than something Neville said in so many words (#2117).
  5. 11 September 1967 stated · refuted
    Source Imagining Creates RealityImagining Creates Reality (nid 1281), telling 1281-4, told 1967-09-11
    Reasoning || v1.1/l7/told-close: the delivery claim this was derived from (nid 1281, 1967-9-11) was refuted by the L7 adjudication (#2363). The corrected told claim from the same lecture stands at 1968-6-3. This row is retired rather than deleted so the derivation history remains readable.
Sources

Source

  • Jacob's Ladder: Christ ¶17 (He sent me his little pamphlet. I gave it to a man to use on NBC and he never returned it. Mr. Hoover signed it for me and asked me to send a copy of my book Awakened Imagination, which I did.)
  • Imagining Creates Reality ¶32 (I know because he sent me a copy of his address and requested a copy of my book Awakened Imagination.)
  • The New Christology ¶34 (He sent me an autographed copy of his address and asked for a copy of my book, Awakened Imagination, which I am quite sure he had in his library at his death.)
  • There Is No Other God ¶17 (And, so, here, Mr. Hoover – he sent me an autographed copy of his address that he gave in the City of San Francisco the last time he spoke at the G.O.P. Convention)
  • The New Christology ¶34 ('our late President Hoover addressed the GOP convention in San Francisco...rise and fall of nations...')
  • Imagining Creates Reality ¶32 (Neville: 'I think the year was 1958, no, 1960')
4 tellings, oldest first. A date in brackets shows how it is known; "circa", "after" and "possible" dates are rough.
Date Lecture or book Telling Passage
1967-09-22 [exact/certain/final] The New Christology When our late President Hoover addressed the GOP convention in San Francisco, he said: “The rise and fall of nations could be traced to the rise and fall of ideas implanted in the mind of man.” Here is a man who rose from the very bottom. He had no money, put himself through college, yet left millions to his family and various charities. Time will prove that Mr. Hoover was a truly great man. He didn’t cause the depression but tells us that it can be traced to the rise and fall of ideas implanted in the mind of man. He sent me an autographed copy of his address and asked for a copy of my book,… 535909
1968-04-15 [exact/probable/final] Jacob's Ladder: Christ So I tell you, Mr. Hoover was perfectly right…condemned as he was. He sent me his little pamphlet. I gave it to a man to use on NBC and he never returned it. Mr. Hoover signed it for me and asked me to send a copy of my book Awakened Imagination, which I did. He said he would put it in his library at Stanford University. So he accepted my book and he sent me his pamphlet. I, in turn, gave it to Elmer Petersen, was his name, who was on NBC in the news department and I never received it from him. But I gave it to him. It was signed by the [...], in which he thanked me for my concept of… 551906
1968-06-03 [exact/certain/final] Imagining Creates Reality Mr. Hoover made the statement at the convention in San Francisco when he addressed the GOP, I think the year was 1958, no, 1960. I know because he sent me a copy of his address and requested a copy of my book Awakened Imagination. Now, when that came out I do not know, but that was what he requested. He sent me his autographed message. This is what he said, “Human history with its many forms of government, its revolutions, its wars, in fact, the rise and fall of nations could be written in terms of the rise and fall of ideas implanted in the minds of men.” 535797
1968-07-16 [exact/certain/final] There Is No Other God Now, when men like our late President and the late Churchill and the present Anthony Eden will make these bold statements – if you tell people as they listen to you, who said it, they are inclined to accept it because the men were prominent when they lived here. And, so, here, Mr. Hoover – he sent me an autographed copy of his address that he gave in the City of San Francisco the last time he spoke at the G.O.P. Convention and he said that nations with its many forms of government, its revolutions – all the things concerning a nation – “The rise and fall,” he said, “could be written in terms… 538496