He tells his wife's vision of a clearing in a grove where two women each carried a book — one titled according to Judaism, the other according to Christianity — and read from them before a man at a table, leaving her struck by how much harder it is to be a Christian than a Jew.
Date (happened)
before 23 June 1969
unresolved
before 23 June 1969
stated · probable · preferred
Reasoning
|| v1.1/l7/preferred-refuted-source/c2-correction2: corrected the earlier retention after the independent-carrier test. The new independently grounded before-1968-11-18 probable bound entails this broader boundary, but only at probable confidence.
c. 1900
stated · doubtful
Reasoning
|| v1.1/l1.4/sentinel1900: year 1900 here is not a date. `corpus v1 / phase3b` emitted it as a placeholder for "unknown, sometime before the telling" whenever the speaker used a vague temporal phrase — this row's own source note is the phrase. The same sentinel was identified and converged on in run v1.1/l0.5/retype/w1-conv. It carried confidence `possible`, which no evidence supported. Lowered to `doubtful`; an honest `before 1971-03` bound is appended alongside from the telling lecture (nid 2202). Nothing deleted, no year invented.
before March 1971
bound · probable
Source
bound from the telling lecture nid 2202 (1971-03)
Reasoning
The event is told in the past tense in nid 2202, delivered 1971-03 (that claim's confidence: probable, preferred), so it had happened by that date. This is the same premise phase4 L6a and L4.5 rest on, stated at the precision the evidence actually supports rather than as a fabricated year. It replaces nothing: the 1900 placeholder row remains, lowered, as the record of what phase3b did. `bound` is never `preferred`, so this does not change what the event displays.
before 18 November 1968
bound · probable
Why
Tighter honest bound; preferred is left to the deterministic ladder.
Reasoning
The past-tense vision had occurred before the independently recovered lecture date. Lecture nid 1466's surviving delivery claim is 1968-11-18 probable; the 1900 sentinel is ignored and supplies no evidence.
Told
18 November 1968
estimated · probable
Why
Lane L7 (#2354) re-derivation. Supersedes in substance, not in storage, the refuted-date told claim(s) on this event; those rows stand per append-only.
Reasoning
Re-derived, not walked down. The existing told claim(s) on this event took their date from a delivery claim on node 1466 that the corpus has since REFUTED, so the corpus was asserting that Neville told this on a day it separately says he did not lecture. That is a contradiction rather than an over-confidence, and lowering the confidence would have hidden it instead of resolving it. The refutation stands and the told claim is the wrong side of it. Node 1466 surviving (non-refuted) claim: 1968-11-18 at `probable`. All claims on the node: 1969-6-23 refuted; 1968-11-18 probable (preferred). Superseded here: delta 0: 1969-06-23 at `certain` (run `corpus v1 / phase3b`) | delta 1: 1969-06-23 at `probable` (run `v1.1/l4/ceiling/c2`). The telling is dated by its lecture, so with the refuted date removed from consideration the surviving claim is what the telling inherits, at that claim own confidence and no higher.
23 June 1969
stated · refuted
Reasoning
|| v1.1/l7/told-close: the delivery claim this was derived from (nid 1466, 1969-6-23) was refuted by the L7 adjudication (#2363). The corrected told claim from the same lecture stands at 1968-11-18. This row is retired rather than deleted so the derivation history remains readable.
23 June 1969
stated · refuted
Why
Corrects the confidence of the told claim written by run `corpus v1 / phase3b` at delta 0 on this event; that claim is left standing per append-only. Ceiling rule #2132.
Reasoning
Confidence only; the date is not re-adjudicated and is left exactly as written. This claim is derived from the delivery claims of node 1466 and asserts `certain`, but the strongest claim that node carries is `probable`, so there is nothing for `certain` to inherit from. nid 1466 delivery claims: 1969-6-23 doubtful; 1968-11-18 probable. Walked back to `probable`, the ceiling. Whether the DATE is right is a separate question this row does not touch; if the evidence turns out to support more confidence, it will have to come from a source other than this node. || v1.1/l7/told-close: the delivery claim this was derived from (nid 1466, 1969-6-23) was refuted by the L7 adjudication (#2363). The corrected told claim from the same lecture stands at 1968-11-18. This row is retired rather than deleted so the derivation history remains readable.
Sources
Source
- The Mystery of Jesus Christ ¶21 (Now let me tell you a vision of my wife that happened years ago. She found herself in the clearing of a lovely grove of trees. At the end of the clearing was a man behind a table, and there were men around this one man, like an assembly.)
- Test Yourselves ¶2 (She found herself in a grove of trees with a wonderful clearing. At the end was this man and on the sides were people. One person entered and this was a woman bearing a book, and the title of the book was The Credence of Faith and the Forgiveness of Sin …)