God Is Light

Lecture catalog #371 — text: HAVE

Date (happened)
9 October 1967
unresolved
  1. 9 October 1967 stated · preferred
    Source Neville lectures catalog #371
  2. 9 October 1967 stated
    Why M7 dating pass (529; 525's readers, packet 016)
    Reasoning Exact title match to node 1052, whose delivery is certainly dated 1967-10-09.
  3. 15 December 1958 stated · refuted
    Source Neville lectures catalog #97
    Why pm-actor-525: refuted by the M7 dating pass (529; 525's readers, packet 016): Catalog date is unsupported and conflicts with node 1052's certain delivery.
    Reasoning Lowered to `doubtful` under the #2461 §1(b) extension of the #2435 standing rule. The fenced lecture that carried this date, nid 1052 "God Is Light", has had its claim at 1958-12-15 REFUTED, and no fenced lecture holds the date, so the assertion retains no support. This event cites that same node in field_sources (1052), so its support is circular: its only witness is a claim the corpus has withdrawn. ⛔ NOT `refuted`, deliberately: what was disproved is that THIS LECTURE was delivered on this day, NOT that Neville lectured that day at all — he spoke far more often than the surviving transcripts record. Refuting would assert the day did not happen, which nobody showed. Lowering withdraws the false confidence and keeps the day visible as calendar supply.
  4. c. 15 December 1967 relative · refuted
    Source Live the Answer Now ¶17reverse-witness passage 528806 (lecture nid 1051, 'Live the Answer Now'), 'our closing night on the 15th of December ... it has been now a month'
    Why pm-actor-525: refuted by the M7 dating pass (529; 525's readers, packet 016): A cross-reference to another lecture (1051), not this one (1052).
    Reasoning nid 1051 has an independently corroborated certain delivery date of 1968-01-15 (legacy catalog #402 claim plus a chrome byline dateline that matches it). The passage places 'our closing night on the 15th of December' at 'now a month' before that lecture, i.e. mid/late December 1967. This is ~10 years off the event's sole existing catalog #97 date (1958-12-15) despite sharing the exact day and month, which reads as a decade-digit error in the legacy catalog entry rather than coincidence. This is a relative estimate off the 1968-01-15 anchor, not an inheritance of the existing certain claim, and does not override it.
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  1. 9 October 1967 estimated
    Source God Is LightRecovered transcript-head dateline 10/9/67.
    Reasoning The source lecture's document-native byline dateline gives 1967-10-09 and independently confirms event 370's occurrence. || v1.1 type repair: written as `stated` by run v1.1/l4/actor403/0-999-b7, retyped `estimated` — the claim cites node 1052, not a passage, so it is this lane's inference rather than something Neville said in so many words (#2117).
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