Neville recalls that although he had first stood in the presence of God about thirty years earlier, that experience of being 'embraced by him' did not come to him with real understanding until July of 1959 -- the earlier encounter having been, in his words, 'almost like something too green to be understood.'
Date (happened)
July 1959
conclusion
Why
dc1-agreement-20261004, pm-actor-551 (PM 8702)
Reasoning
All 3 claims agree on 1959-07: passage:532488; derived from the event's own title: "Neville understands his mystical experience; passage:532488.
July 1959
stated · probable · preferred
Reasoning
Neville directly states the year and month; this matches the widely-attested July 1959 awakening described in his own words elsewhere in this corpus (e.g. lecture nid 1028 gives the exact night as 19 July 1959). A specific self-report, corroborated by consistency across many other tellings, so probable rather than certain.
July 1959
stated · probable
Source
derived from the event's own title: "Neville understands his mystical experience in July 1959"
Reasoning
The event held NO date claim of any kind; its own title states 1959-07 (month precision, parsed as "month year"). ⚠ A title in this corpus is a DERIVED artefact — an earlier pass wrote it from the passage text — so this claim is title-derived and is marked as such rather than cited as a source document; the underlying text remains the real evidence and would supersede it. Confidence `probable`, never `certain`, for that reason. Precision is never inflated beyond the title's own wording. CALIBRATION (run v1.1/l1.4/titledate, against the 489 events that already hold an independent preferred date): day 96.1%, month 94.1% agreement. Titles naming a REFERENCE event rather than the event itself ("before", "after", "during the week of", "per ... lecture") are refused outright and never reach this write — reading an anchor as the date is the same laundering phase3b committed when it wrote telling dates onto events.
July 1959
stated
Reasoning
Passage 532488 states directly, in Neville's own first-person account: 'Well, it didn't come that day, that year, but it came in 1959. So here, in 1959 ... It didn't really come into the mind with understanding until July of '59.' This is an absolute statement, not dependent on or computed from the lecture's own delivery date, giving month+year precision unambiguously. It matches and upgrades the existing title-derived claim (probable, month precision) to a directly witnessed one; confidence certain because the statement is plain, unhedged and autobiographical. Day is not given in the text so is omitted rather than guessed. Weakest link: none identified beyond the ordinary reliability of a first-person retrospective account of one's own life.
Told / reported
12 January 1965
conclusion
Why
dc1-agreement-20261004, pm-actor-551 (PM 8702)
Reasoning
1 claim, no conflict: 1965-01-12 (node:1183).
12 January 1965
estimated
Reasoning
Two independent certain sources agree exactly, and no competing claim exists.
1 tellings, oldest first. A date in brackets shows how it is known; "circa", "after" and "possible" dates are rough.
| Date |
Lecture or book |
Telling |
Passage |
| 1965-01-12 [exact/certain/final] |
Twenty-Seven Heavens |
Well, it didn’t come that day, that year, but it came in 1959. So here, in 1959…prior to that I had had the experience of meeting God, embraced by him, but it was almost like something too green to be understood. It didn’t really come into the mind with understanding until July of ’59. Almost thirty years prior to that, yes, I met and stood in the presence of God, infinite love; but you can’t believe that you, this small, little thing, could be that welcome, could be that, I would say, graced. Because you know your limitations, you know your weaknesses, you know all that you are, and you can… |
532488 |