Neville tells of an argument years ago with his aunt Maude, his father's sister, a lifelong member of The Brothers: he told her the Bible says Jesus had brothers, she nearly struck him, he had her fetch her own Bible and read Mark 6, and she slammed it shut, rushed to her bedroom and never came out, unchanged to this day in her nineties.
Date (happened)
before 1900
bound · doubtful
Reasoning
v1.1/l0.5/retype/w1-conv: type stated -> bound. Convergence of the w1 pass, which split on this exact shape — 25 rows with the 1900 sentinel year and a vague relative note were judged `stated` while 5 identical rows were judged `bound`. The 1900 here is a placeholder meaning "unknown, sometime before the telling", not a date any source stated; Neville was born in 1905, so "before 1900" is not a coherent bound on his own recollections. A claim whose year is that sentinel cannot be `stated`. Note the year itself remains wrong and is out of scope for L0.5, which may touch only `type` and `preferred` — reported separately. Source note as recorded: ""years ago", told in Eschatological Visions (nid 1348)" || v1.1/l1.4/sentinel1900: year 1900 here is not a date. `corpus v1 / phase3b` emitted it as a placeholder for "unknown, sometime before the telling" whenever the speaker used a vague temporal phrase — this row's own source note is the phrase. The same sentinel was identified and converged on in run v1.1/l0.5/retype/w1-conv. It carried confidence `probable`, which no evidence supported. Lowered to `doubtful`; an honest `before 1968-04-05` bound is appended alongside from the telling lecture (nid 1348). Nothing deleted, no year invented.
before 5 April 1968
bound
Source
bound from the telling lecture nid 1348 (1968-04-05)
Reasoning
The event is told in the past tense in nid 1348, delivered 1968-04-05 (that claim's confidence: certain, preferred), so it had happened by that date. This is the same premise phase4 L6a and L4.5 rest on, stated at the precision the evidence actually supports rather than as a fabricated year. It replaces nothing: the 1900 placeholder row remains, lowered, as the record of what phase3b did. `bound` is never `preferred`, so this does not change what the event displays.
before 1968
bound · possible
Source
qualifying source passages 531289; telling lecture nids 1139
Reasoning
Qualifying passage ids [531289] belong to telling lecture nids [1139]. Each listed lecture contributes the selected safe envelope year 1968 (MAX of its non-refuted delivery years); 1968 is the MIN across telling lectures.
before 5 April 1968
bound
Source
telling lecture nid 1139, certain delivery 1968-04-05
Why
Tightens the phase4 L6a envelope from before 1968 to before 1968-04-05.
Reasoning
L6a envelope tightened to the telling day of nid 1139 (certain delivery 1968-04-05); same premise, finer precision. The phase4 L6a bound on this event is `before 1968`, an envelope over delivery YEARS computed without reading text. Its premise is that the fact is true by the time it is told; on that same premise the DAY of the telling is a strictly better upper bound. Nothing is re-decided — the bound is stated to the precision the evidence always supported. The delivery claim for 1968-04-05 on nid 1139 is held at `certain` by the corpus, which is what carries this claim. #2274; the L6a row stands beside this one.
before 1968
bound · possible
Reasoning
Qualifying passage ids [537856] belong to telling lecture nids [1348]. Each listed lecture contributes the selected safe envelope year 1968 (MAX of its non-refuted delivery years); 1968 is the MIN across telling lectures.
before 5 April 1968
bound
Why
Tightens the phase4 L6a envelope from before 1968 to before 1968-04-05.
Reasoning
L6a envelope tightened to the telling day of nid 1348 (certain delivery 1968-04-05); same premise, finer precision. The phase4 L6a bound on this event is `before 1968`, an envelope over delivery YEARS computed without reading text. Its premise is that the fact is true by the time it is told; on that same premise the DAY of the telling is a strictly better upper bound. Nothing is re-decided — the bound is stated to the precision the evidence always supported. The delivery claim for 1968-04-05 on nid 1348 is held at `certain` by the corpus, which is what carries this claim. #2274; the L6a row stands beside this one.
Told / reported
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5 April 1968
stated
Source
Eschatology: The Drama of the End (nid 1139), telling 1139-6, told 1968-04-05
Sources
Source
- Eschatological Visions ¶55 (We were discussing something and I said, “Well, Maude, don’t you know that the Bible teaches that Jesus had brothers?” “What?” She almost smacked me in the face. She was my aunt, my father’s sister, and she denied it.)
- Eschatological Visions ¶55 (I have an aunt, now in her nineties. She was born and raised in a group called “The Brothers”, the most bigoted Christian organisation there ever was. One day while visiting her, I said: “Don’t you know that the Bible teaches that Jesus had brothers?”)
- Eschatological Visions ¶56 (I said, “Bring your Bible. I couldn’t bring mine because I don’t have it with me.”)