Neville Goddard quits Macy's, resolves never to work for another, and begins dancing with no lessons, c.1923-1924
After losing the Penney job, Neville worked Macy's shipping dock for $13 a week, then quit and resolved never to work for another again.
Place: New York, NY
Person: Neville Goddard
Date (happened)
between 1923 and 1924
unresolved
between 1923 and 1924
estimated · possible · preferred
Reasoning
He says he was eighteen when fired from J.C. Penney and was given a letter to Macy's immediately; he worked at Macy's 'about ten months' before quitting to start dancing (this event). Anchoring on his birth date (hist_event 950, 1905-02-19), 'eighteen years old' spans 1923-02-19 to 1924-02-18. Adding roughly ten months to each end of that span for the Macy's stint places the quitting/dancing-start event between roughly late 1923 and late 1924. This compounds an age band, an approximate duration, and an assumed immediate J.C. Penney-to-Macy's transition, so confidence is capped at possible. It is loosely corroborated by his own 'forty-odd years ago' (for the J.C. Penney firing) in this same lecture, whose delivery is independently dated to the first half of 1971 (certain) - landing the firing circa the early-to-mid 1920s.
c. 1921
stated · probable
c. 1922
stated · doubtful
Why
pm-actor-533: pm-actor-533: typed stated though passage 553378 prints only the age 'seventeen', no year.
before 18 July 1969
bound · probable
Reasoning
P553378 is retrospective personal testimony; the event had occurred before lecture nid 2120's delivery date. Non-preferred bound only.
between 1921 and 1925
bound · probable
Reasoning
Passage 141373 narrates Neville's arrival in New York in 1921, then his J.C. Penney and Macy's dock jobs, then his dancing career, marriage, son, and 1925 departure for England. The Macy's event occurred after 1921 and before 1925. This is a secondary biography but the enclosing years are explicit; confidence capped at probable to carry the real strength of the timeline rather than the 'certain' already on d1.
c. 1924
stated · doubtful
Why
pm-actor-533: pm-actor-533: quoted text ('One day I quit Macy's...') prints no year at all.
before 1966
bound · possible
Reasoning
Qualifying passage ids [547396] belong to telling lecture nids [1868]. Each listed lecture contributes the selected safe envelope year 1966 (MAX of its non-refuted delivery years); 1966 is the MIN across telling lectures.
before 1971
bound · possible
Reasoning
Qualifying passage ids [553115] belong to telling lecture nids [2108]. Each listed lecture contributes the selected safe envelope year 1971 (MAX of its non-refuted delivery years); 1971 is the MIN across telling lectures.
Told / reported
-
1969
estimated · probable
Reasoning
Lecture node 2120 Eschatology is dated to 1969 by its delivery claims. The strongest delivery-date claim for this same year-only tuple is 1969-??-?? at probable, so the told year is estimated at exact 1969 with confidence capped at probable. Existing told row remains as recorded.
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18 February 1966
estimated · probable
Reasoning
Passage 547396 in lecture nid 1868 is Neville himself narrating his decision to quit Macy's and never work for another person, including the Schubert anecdote. The lecture's better-evidenced delivery claim (confirmed dateline, day-of-week cross-checked) dates it 1966-02-18, so the telling inherits that precision and confidence rather than the coarser, corrected d0 circa-March estimate.
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between 1 January 1971 and 30 June 1971
estimated
Reasoning
The existing field_told claim is a bare '1971' with no month. The lecture's delivery has since been narrowed to the first half of 1971 by delivery claim d1 (certain), which rests on Neville explicitly naming the current year and placing the talk before the coming July anniversary of his 1959 awakening. This is a finer told claim at the same confidence ceiling.
Sources
Source
- Margaret Ruth Broome Neville Goddard The Man Who Knew He Was God ¶9 (From this day forward I will not work for another. I will only work for myself.)
- Eschatology ¶56 (So he gave me an advance, spring over — Macy’s, he said — “he doesn’t understand America’s rules, so give him a challenge.” So I was getting, I think, twenty-two, at the store — and then from then on I worked for myself.)
- The Finances Of Neville Goddard What He Charged For Lectures And Why He Never Charged For Private Interviews ¶12 (One day I quit Macy’s. I don’t mean fired.)
- The Finances Of Neville Goddard What He Charged For Lectures And Why He Never Charged For Private Interviews ¶13 (One day I quit Macy’s. I don’t mean fired. [continuation of split citation])
- The Art of Imagining ¶36 (So, I got a little job at Macy’s. I went to the boss and he sent me over to Macy’s. I got a job there, and then I quit Macy’s (they didn’t fire me). Worked there for ten months and I quit, and from that day on to this I have never worked for another pers…)
- Rock Water Wine ¶31 (Oh yes, I had six Broadway shows, but I never considered myself working for Mr. Schubert. I was an artist and he employed me, and so, when he employed me I never thought that he was my boss.)
- Amnesia, The Sleep Of Death ¶17 (I started dancing. I couldn’t dance. There was no dancing lesson in my life; I said I contained it, and then you could do anything in this world that you want. I didn’t take any lessons, so they picked me.)