Neville sees the unborn Neville Mark Burleigh

Neville recounts that in September, before the November birthday of his New York namesake, he saw the boy before he was born and asked when he was coming; the boy answered 'tenth of November.' He told his wife (kiddingly, since she was not pregnant) and separately told a pregnant friend that if her child were a boy born on the tenth he should be named Neville Mark - which came to pass. Age given elsewhere in the same 1968 lecture (turning sixteen on 10 November) dates the birth to 1952 and the vision to September 1952.
Date (happened)
c. September 1952
probable
  1. c. September 1952 conclusion · probable
    Why dc1-agreement-20261004, pm-actor-551 (PM 8702)
    Reasoning 1 claim, no conflict: c. 1952-09 (passage:538878).
  2. c. September 1952 relative · probable · preferred
    Source Before Abraham Was, I AM ¶20passage 538878 (lecture nid 1385): 'in the month of September, prior to his birthday, which is in November, I saw him before he was born'; passage 538881 (same lecture): boy is 'now sixteen or will be November 10th' as of the 1968-10-11 telling, giving a birth date of 10 Nov 1952.
    Why Passage 538881 elsewhere says he saw the child 'two weeks before he came into the world', which would put the vision in late October rather than September; the fuller, more specific first account (month named, reason for the timing given) is preferred, and the discrepancy is left visible rather than silently resolved.
    Reasoning Neville states the vision occurred in September, before the child's November birthday; the child's stated age in the same 1968-10-11 lecture ('now sixteen or will be November 10th') back-dates that birthday to 10 Nov 1952, putting the vision in September 1952. Month is directly stated; year is arithmetic from the boy's age given elsewhere in the same telling, hence relative/circa rather than exact.
Place
New York City possible
Told / reported
  1. 11 October 1968 conclusion
    Why dc1-agreement-20261004, pm-actor-551 (PM 8702)
    Reasoning 1 claim, no conflict: 1968-10-11 (node:1385).
  2. 11 October 1968 stated
    Source Before Abraham Was, I AMlecture nid 1385 delivery claims d0 (catalog #476) and d1 (chrome dateline '10/11/68'), both certain and in agreement
    Reasoning Two independent certain delivery claims on the lecture containing both witnessing passages agree exactly on 1968-10-11; a Friday, consistent with Neville's usual lecture nights.