Neville arrives in New York City
Neville immigrated from Barbados to New York City at age 17.
Place: New York City
Person: Neville Goddard
The reproduced manifest records Neville arriving aboard the Vasari at age seventeen and going to his brother at 138A Dean Street, Brooklyn.
Broome says Neville completed high school at seventeen and then left Barbados seeking his fortune in New York.
Date (happened)
25 September 1922
unresolved
25 September 1922
stated · preferred
Why
Age 17; destination brother L. Goddard, 138A Dean Street, Brooklyn.
Reasoning
The manifest gives the exact arrival date; the page explicitly rejects the conflicting secondary 1921 claim.
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between 1922 and 1952
stated
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25 September 1922
stated
Why
Conflicting 1921 account retained elsewhere; no preference set.
Reasoning
The event is Neville's emigration to New York. The passage identifies 25 September 1922 as the ship-manifest date, while its adjacent prose flags 1921 as a conflicting biographical claim; the primary-record-backed exact date is therefore appended without preference.
1922
stated
Reasoning
The passage directly states the arrival year.
1922
stated
Why
Source passage belongs to a different hist_event's witness set (18042); cited here as cross-corroboration for the same real-world event, which this write is also flagging as a likely duplicate.
Reasoning
This event's own witness passage (539421, lecture nid=1413) gives only 'at the age of 17' with no year. A second, near-identical telling of the same life story (passage 546613, lecture nid=1845) directly states the year: 'the year was 1922'. Both tellings describe the identical event (Barbados, age 17, parents, $600, boat to America), so the stated year from the corroborating telling is used here per lane guidance that a second telling can bound a vague date.
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c. August 1922
relative · possible
Why
See merge_proposal: this is the same real-world event as hist_event 18042.
Reasoning
The corpus's own military-service record and birth-place evidence fix Neville's birth as 19 February 1905. Seventeen and a half years after that is circa August 1922, which also agrees with the corpus's independently-established 1922 date for this same emigration (hist_event 18042, sourced from a telling that states the year outright). The day is not asserted, only the month, since 'seventeen and a half' is an approximate age rather than a precise day-count.
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c. 1922
stated · probable
1922
stated
Why
Matches the well-documented biographical fact that Neville left Barbados for New York in 1922.
Reasoning
Neville states the year directly and unambiguously in his own autobiographical account, and even cross-checks it against the present year ('here it's '68'), which independently corroborates the lecture's own 1968 delivery date.
between 19 February 1922 and 18 February 1923
estimated · probable
Reasoning
Neville states he left Barbados 'at the age of seventeen'. Combined with the corpus's established birth date 1905-02-19 (hist_event 950), a whole-number age spans a year: he was seventeen from 1922-02-19 to 1923-02-18. Written as a between-bound rather than an exact date; capped at probable because it is an age recalled decades later on the platform, per brief guidance.
between 19 February 1922 and 18 February 1923
estimated · probable
Reasoning
Neville states his age as seventeen when he left Barbados; against the corpus's established birth date (hist_event 950, 1905-02-19), being seventeen spans 1922-02-19 to 1923-02-18. An age given as a whole number and recalled decades later is a range, not an exact date, per the corpus convention for age-based dating.
1922
stated · possible
Why
No month or day is stated; the WordPress post date is ignored.
Reasoning
Neville says he came to New York in '22; this oral recollection conflicts with a 1921 account elsewhere in the corpus, so it is retained as possible.
1922
stated · probable
Reasoning
Neville states directly, 'I wished to come to this country and in those days in 1922, as I presumed they had certain restrictions more so than today…but I came,' in lecture 1845 ('Maker Maker Things') — an account independent of the existing Abdullah Q&A witness (node 2218), corroborating 1922. The surrounding narrative (age seventeen/eighteen on arrival, unaroused until age twenty in 1925 in England) is internally consistent with an early-1920s arrival.
1922
stated · probable
Reasoning
Neville states, 'I saw them when I came to this country in 1922,' referring to Fifth Avenue mansions then being demolished, in lecture 1859 ('Believe It In'). A third independent statement of the 1922 arrival year, distinct from node 2218 and passage 546651.
1922
stated · probable
Source
derived from the event's own title: "Neville leaves Barbados in 1922"
Reasoning
The event held NO date claim of any kind; its own title states 1922 (year precision, parsed as "year only"). ⚠ A title in this corpus is a DERIVED artefact — an earlier pass wrote it from the passage text — so this claim is title-derived and is marked as such rather than cited as a source document; the underlying text remains the real evidence and would supersede it. Confidence `probable`, never `certain`, for that reason. Precision is never inflated beyond the title's own wording. CALIBRATION (run v1.1/l1.4/titledate, against the 489 events that already hold an independent preferred date): day 96.1%, month 94.1% agreement. Titles naming a REFERENCE event rather than the event itself ("before", "after", "during the week of", "per ... lecture") are refused outright and never reach this write — reading an anchor as the date is the same laundering phase3b committed when it wrote telling dates onto events.
1922
stated
Reasoning
Neville's own direct first-person statement gives the year he left Barbados; this is a primary-source claim read straight off the text, no ceiling applies, and it corroborates the existing title-derived probable claim with stronger evidence.
c. 1922
stated · probable
Reasoning
This matches hist_event:5937's already-established circa-1922 date for the same fact (leaving Barbados for America at seventeen), sourced there from two other, cleaner tellings. This passage's own reverse-witness confidence is marked only 'probable' (not certain) because the surrounding text is badly garbled per the lecture's processing notes, so probable is carried through rather than upgraded.
c. 1922
stated
Source
"When I was a boy … at the age of 17", told in Your Maker (nid 1413)
between 19 February 1922 and 18 February 1923
estimated · probable
Source
passage 539421 (lecture nid 1413), 'at the age of 17 my parents put me on a boat to America', combined with the corpus's certain birth date, hist_event 950 (1905-02-19)
Why
No month or day of the voyage itself is given anywhere in the packet; this is the finest window the age statement supports.
Reasoning
He states his age at departure as exactly 17. Against the certain corpus anchor for his birth date (1905-02-19, hist_event 950), a whole-number age of 17 runs from the 17th birthday (1922-02-19) to the day before the 18th (1923-02-18). The existing claim asserts a single year, 1922, at certain confidence, which is narrower than the true window and silently excludes the small January-to-mid-February 1923 slice of it; the honest claim is the full between-range. Per this lane's guidance a recollection of one's own age given decades later (told 1969-01-07) is capped at probable, not certain.
1921
stated · refuted
Why
pm-actor-525: refuted by the M7 dating pass (529; 525's readers, packet 004): Contradicted by the Vasari manifest's exact 25 September 1922 date and by many of Neville's own 1922 tellings.
Reasoning
Broome explicitly says the seventeen-year-old Neville arrived in New York in 1921.
1921
stated · refuted
Source
Broome says Neville arrived in New York in 1921 at age seventeen
Why
pm-actor-525: refuted by the M7 dating pass (529; 525's readers, packet 004): Same secondary Broome account, contradicted by the manifest and the many 1922 tellings.
Reasoning
This is the passage's direct claim but conflicts with ship-manifest evidence for 25 September 1922; it is appended without preference at possible confidence.
Told / reported
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28 September 1969
stated · doubtful
25 October 1971
estimated · probable
Why
Lane L7 (#2354) re-derivation. Supersedes in substance, not in storage, the refuted-date told claim(s) on this event; those rows stand per append-only.
Reasoning
Re-derived, not walked down. The existing told claim(s) on this event took their date from a delivery claim on node 1752 that the corpus has since REFUTED, so the corpus was asserting that Neville told this on a day it separately says he did not lecture. That is a contradiction rather than an over-confidence, and lowering the confidence would have hidden it instead of resolving it. The refutation stands and the told claim is the wrong side of it. Node 1752 surviving (non-refuted) claim: 1971-10-25 at `probable`. All claims on the node: 1957-??-?? refuted; 1971-10-25 probable (preferred). Superseded here: delta 2: 1957-00-00 at `certain` (run `corpus v1 / phase3b`) | delta 3: 1957-00-00 at `probable` (run `v1.1/l4/ceiling/c2`). The telling is dated by its lecture, so with the refuted date removed from consideration the surviving claim is what the telling inherits, at that claim own confidence and no higher.
26 September 1969
estimated · probable
Why
Corrects the delta-1 told claim written by run corpus v1 / phase3b; that row stands per append-only. Does not touch field_date evidence, which does not depend on this lecture.
Reasoning
The event's existing told claim (delta 1, 1969-09-28, certain, run corpus v1 / phase3b) inherited its date from node 1481's legacy catalogue delivery claim (#592). That catalogue claim has since been downgraded to doubtful by the v1.1/l2/w2 chrome-harvest pass because it disagrees by two days with the lecture's own document-native chrome-header dateline, which reads 1969-09-26 (repeated identically twice in the removed header, revision 9041) and is now the certain, preferred delivery claim on the node. Per the corpus's stated preference for internal document evidence over a catalogue stub, the telling should be read from the stronger claim; written at probable rather than certain because the corpus's own processing note leaves the two-day gap explicitly unresolved for a human ('a transcription slip is plausible on either side'), so full inheritance of certain would silently settle an open contradiction.
18 July 1968
estimated
Reasoning
Passage 542758 in this lecture ('I came to New York City in 1922, and I have lived in New York City. I knew every square inch of it.') already carries a field_refs Temporal reference to this event, but the event had no told claim for this telling and the passage was not yet a field_sources witness either. The lecture's delivery date is exceptionally well corroborated -- three independent claims (Cool Wisdom Books full transcript reviewed end to end, the chrome-header dateline, and a dated newspaper advertisement checked against the weekday sequence) all agree on 1968-07-18 at certain confidence -- so the told claim inherits at the ceiling, certain.
7 January 1969
estimated
Source
delivery claims d0/d1 on lecture nid 1413: legacy catalog #507 (certain) and chrome byline '1/7/69' (certain), agreeing
Reasoning
The witness passage does not itself state when Neville is speaking, so the told claim is inherited from the lecture's delivery record rather than stated in-passage (type=estimated per the inheritance rule). Both of nid=1413's delivery claims (legacy catalog and the chrome byline dateline) independently agree on 1969-01-07 at certain confidence, so the told claim can carry that same certainty.
6 May 1969
estimated
Reasoning
The witness passage does not itself state when Neville is speaking, so the told claim is inherited from the lecture's delivery record (type=estimated per the inheritance rule). Two independent sources (a preserved transcript dateline across six revisions, and a separately-merged catalog entry) agree exactly on 1969-05-06 at certain/probable, while the competing catalog claim was already demoted to doubtful by lane L1.3b, so the told claim uses the agreed, non-doubtful date.
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18 November 1968
estimated · probable
Why
Lane L7 (#2354) re-derivation. Supersedes in substance, not in storage, the refuted-date told claim(s) on this event; those rows stand per append-only.
Reasoning
Re-derived, not walked down. The existing told claim(s) on this event took their date from a delivery claim on node 1466 that the corpus has since REFUTED, so the corpus was asserting that Neville told this on a day it separately says he did not lecture. That is a contradiction rather than an over-confidence, and lowering the confidence would have hidden it instead of resolving it. The refutation stands and the told claim is the wrong side of it. Node 1466 surviving (non-refuted) claim: 1968-11-18 at `probable`. All claims on the node: 1969-6-23 refuted; 1968-11-18 probable (preferred). Superseded here: delta 1: 1969-06-23 at `certain` (run `corpus v1 / phase3b`) | delta 2: 1969-06-23 at `probable` (run `v1.1/l4/ceiling/c2`). The telling is dated by its lecture, so with the refuted date removed from consideration the surviving claim is what the telling inherits, at that claim own confidence and no higher.
8 April 1968
estimated
Reasoning
The lecture holding the witness passage is dated 1968-04-08 by a certain/exact delivery claim, independently corroborated both by the processing notes (four days after MLK's 4/4/1968 assassination) and by this very passage's own 'here it's '68' remark.
between 18 May 1969 and 19 May 1969
estimated · possible
Reasoning
Both delivery-claim witnesses for lecture 1453 disagree with each other and the note on d1 explicitly says the true date is 'genuinely unresolved between the two witnesses', so the telling date is written as a low-confidence between-bound spanning both candidates rather than as an exact date.
7 February 1969
estimated
Reasoning
Neville tells this story of being sent to America from the platform in lecture nid 1845. The lecture's only delivery claim (d0) gives 1969-02-07 at certain confidence; unlike several other lectures in this batch it is not independently corroborated by a second source and is marked legacy_unreviewed, so the told date rests on that single source's own stated confidence.
7 February 1969
estimated · probable
Reasoning
Neville tells the 1922-arrival story in lecture 1845. Its delivery date, 1969-02-07, rests on a single legacy-backfilled claim (catalog #798, copied from linked historical event 1101, state legacy_unreviewed) with no independent corroboration shown in this packet, so held at probable rather than certain. || v1.1 type repair: written as `stated` by run v1.1/l4/actor417/8000-9999-b4, retyped `estimated` — the claim cites node 1845, not a passage, so it is this lane's inference rather than something Neville said in so many words (#2117).
7 January 1966
estimated
Reasoning
Neville tells the 1922-arrival story (Fifth Avenue mansions) in lecture 1859. Its delivery date, 1966-01-07, is corroborated by three convergent lines of evidence in the packet: internal schedule reasoning (Feynman Nobel reference plus the Tuesday/Friday meeting cadence), the transcript's own chrome dateline '1/07/66', and the page-title year '(1966)'. || v1.1 type repair: written as `stated` by run v1.1/l4/actor417/8000-9999-b4, retyped `estimated` — the claim cites node 1859, not a passage, so it is this lane's inference rather than something Neville said in so many words (#2117).
1 May 1964
estimated · probable
Reasoning
Neville recounts leaving Barbados from the platform on the lecture's own (certain) delivery date of 1964-05-01; capped at probable since the telling-attribution itself is an inference.
18 July 1969
estimated · probable
Reasoning
The 3 delivery claims include a tie: d0 (preferred=1, probable) gives only the year 1969; d2 (also probable) gives the exact day 1969-07-18, verified via corroboration with an attached same-delivery event (hist_event:7475). d1 gives the same day but only reaches possible confidence and is flagged 'weak'. With d0 and d2 tied on confidence, I take d2 for its precision and verified status.
7 January 1969
stated
Source
Your Maker (nid 1413), telling 1413-1, told 1969-01-07
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1957
stated · refuted
Reasoning
|| v1.1/l7/told-close: the delivery claim this was derived from (nid 1752, 1957--) was refuted by the L7 adjudication (#2363). The corrected told claim from the same lecture stands at 1971-10-25. This row is retired rather than deleted so the derivation history remains readable.
1957
stated · refuted
Why
Corrects the confidence of the told claim written by run `corpus v1 / phase3b` at delta 2 on this event; that claim is left standing per append-only. Ceiling rule #2132.
Reasoning
Confidence only; the date is not re-adjudicated and is left exactly as written. This claim is derived from the delivery claims of node 1752 and asserts `certain`, but the strongest claim that node carries is `probable`, so there is nothing for `certain` to inherit from. nid 1752 delivery claims: 1957-??-?? doubtful; 1971-10-25 probable. Walked back to `probable`, the ceiling. Whether the DATE is right is a separate question this row does not touch; if the evidence turns out to support more confidence, it will have to come from a source other than this node. || v1.1/l7/told-close: the delivery claim this was derived from (nid 1752, 1957--) was refuted by the L7 adjudication (#2363). The corrected told claim from the same lecture stands at 1971-10-25. This row is retired rather than deleted so the derivation history remains readable.
30 January 1969
stated · refuted
23 June 1969
stated · refuted
Reasoning
|| v1.1/l7/told-close: the delivery claim this was derived from (nid 1466, 1969-6-23) was refuted by the L7 adjudication (#2363). The corrected told claim from the same lecture stands at 1968-11-18. This row is retired rather than deleted so the derivation history remains readable.
Sources
Source
- The Finances Of Neville Goddard What He Charged For Lectures And Why He Never Charged For Private Interviews ¶6 (When Neville arrived in NYC in 1922 at age 17)
- The Bible Is Addressed to the Imagination ¶1 (I came back to New York City in 1922. Well, I have lived there for years, and go back every year, and every year an old landmark is gone and some towering thing is in its place.)
- Biblical Language ¶26 (I can remember prohibition well. I came to New York City in 1922 and remained there until 1952, so I know New York City well.)
- The Potter's House ¶13 (A few were left when I came to New York City in 1922. The Vanderbilts and the Astors . . they were still there.)
- Margaret Ruth Broome Neville Goddard The Man Who Knew He Was God (Broome says Neville arrived in New York at seventeen in 1921.)
- Goddards Homes West Hollywood New York (Vasari manifest section)
- Margaret Ruth Broome Neville Goddard The Man Who Knew He Was God ¶8 (Broome early-life chronology)
- Goddards Homes West Hollywood New York ¶2 (Vasari manifest and conflicting biography chronology)
- I Remember When ¶0 (There were still a few left when I arrived in New York in 1922, with their stables a block or two blocks away between 6th and 7th…all these were down 5th Avenue.)
- The One Greater Than John ¶3 (I left Barbados at the age of seventeen and came to America, believing as I did everything placed before me that was edible was right.)
- Test Yourselves ¶10 (So at the age of seventeen, having placed myself mentally…because the Spirit moved, “And the Spirit of the Lord God moved”…well, the Spirit moves and the Spirit is my own wonderful human Imagination…so I placed myself in a foreign land and it was always …)
- Abdullah How We Got Together Qa (Neville says in the Q&A, 'I came here in '22.')
- Maker Maker Things ¶11 (When I was a boy I lived in Barbados. Unschooled, with no background whatsoever, I dreamed of coming to America. I became so enamored with the idea, that at the age of 17 my parents put me on a boat to America with $600 in my pocket.)
- Maker Maker Things ¶11 (So when I was seventeen, I became so restless that my parents put me on the boat and put $600 in my pocket and sent me off to America, knowing, so they thought, I would come back after I spent the money.)
Temporal reference