Seven years before this telling, a woman Neville calls Jen — with no money and no means of accumulating any — decided after hearing him teach that imagining creates reality that she would go to Egypt. She told everyone of her intention rather than keeping it private, drawing criticism from friends who thought the idea both financially foolish and irreligious, but persisted in holding to the assumption.
Date (happened)
c. 1957
estimated · probable · preferred
Why
Corrects the stale d0 (1965 circa/certain), which was arithmetic on nid 1535's since-refuted 1972-03-06 delivery date; d0 is left standing per append-only.
Reasoning
Passage 542181 says the trip prize was set up seven years before this telling. The telling lecture (nid 1535) has since had its 1972-03-06 delivery claim refuted by L7 (year-error, corrected to 1964-03-06 at probable); 1964 minus seven is 1957, not the 1965 the corpus's stale d0 computed from the now-refuted 1972 date. Independently corroborated: passage 554204 in nid 2153 ('it's been seven years now') gives the identical 1957 when computed from that lecture's own certain 1964-03-06 delivery claim, and 1957 sits inside the existing d1 between-range (1957-1961). Confidence held at probable, the ceiling set by nid 1535's surviving delivery claim.
c. 1957
estimated · possible
Reasoning
Jen's decision is placed 'seven years ago' relative to the telling, dated 1964-03-06 (see told claim), giving circa 1957. Confidence held to possible: it is a relative expression stacked on an already-probable (not certain) told date.
between 1957 and 1961
stated · probable
Source
"Several years ago", told in Our Real Beliefs (nid 2153)
c. 1965
stated · refuted
Why
pm-actor-525: refuted by the M7 dating pass (529; 525's readers, packet 014): Computed from lecture nid 1535's since-refuted 1972-03-06 delivery date; the corrected delivery (1964-03-06) yields 1957, not 1965, and this stale claim is mislabelled 'certain'.
Told
6 March 1964
estimated · probable
Why
Unusually well-corroborated internal-evidence redating; a good candidate for someone to promote [d2] toward certain once reviewed, per the source's own honest 'probable' framing.
Reasoning
Lecture nid 1535 carries 3 delivery claims. [d0] (catalogue #671) and [d1] (the transcript's own chrome dateline) both give 1972-03-06 and would normally corroborate each other, but a prior lane (v1.1/l1.4/w2) already downgraded both to doubtful because the lecture's own spoken content is internally inconsistent with 1972: it names a New York World's Fair 'opening in April' (matches only the 1964-65 fair) and 'the king of Greece, who just died' (matches only King Paul I of Greece, died 1964-03-06 — the identical day-of-month both external sources record). [d2] reconstructs the date from that internal evidence as 1964-03-06 and is graded probable, which is the highest confidence of the three (probable > doubtful), so no tiebreak override is even needed: [d2] simply wins on the stated confidence ranking. The likely explanation, per [d1]'s own note, is a shared eight-year transcription-era error (1964 mis-set to 1972) propagating into both the catalogue and the chrome dateline.
6 March 1972
stated · refuted
Reasoning
|| v1.1/l7/told-close: the delivery claim this was derived from (nid 1535, 1972-3-6) was refuted by the L7 adjudication (#2363). The corrected told claim from the same lecture stands at 1964-3-6. This row is retired rather than deleted so the derivation history remains readable.
Sources
Source
- Know What You Want (Our Real Belief) ¶6 (Seven years ago, a lady, she’s not here tonight, she’s now on a new job and is taken away for a while. But when she heard it, that imagining creates reality, she said to herself, “Well, if that is so, I would like to go to Egypt.”)