Victor sends Neville a steamship ticket to Barbados
Neville's brother Victor sent him a steamship ticket and $50 for a Christmas trip back to Barbados (the 'You are in Barbados' Abdullah story).
Person: Neville Goddard
Date (happened)
between 3 December 1933 and 4 December 1933
unresolved
between 3 December 1933 and 4 December 1933
stated · preferred
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4 December 1957
stated · probable
between 1921 and 1933
stated
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c. 1933
stated · probable
c. 1933
stated · probable
between 3 December 1933 and 4 December 1933
stated · probable
Source
"on the morning of the 4th or the 3rd of December", told in All Imagination Lecture (nid 3963)
Told / reported
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4 June 1971
estimated · possible
Why
Lane L7 (#2354) re-derivation. Supersedes in substance, not in storage, the refuted-date told claim(s) on this event; those rows stand per append-only.
Reasoning
Re-derived, not walked down. The existing told claim(s) on this event took their date from a delivery claim on node 1928 that the corpus has since REFUTED, so the corpus was asserting that Neville told this on a day it separately says he did not lecture. That is a contradiction rather than an over-confidence, and lowering the confidence would have hidden it instead of resolving it. The refutation stands and the told claim is the wrong side of it. Node 1928 surviving (non-refuted) claim: 1971-6-4 at `possible`. All claims on the node: 1969-5-26 refuted; 1971-6-4 possible (preferred). Superseded here: delta 2: 1969-05-26 at `certain` (run `corpus v1 / phase3b`). The telling is dated by its lecture, so with the refuted date removed from consideration the surviving claim is what the telling inherits, at that claim own confidence and no higher.
9 January 1964
estimated
Reasoning
Passage 528244 in lecture nid 1033 recounts Victor's letter/ticket. Node 1033 delivery date is 1964-01-09 (L7 adjudication #2363 verdict certain). Told claim is estimated by lane convention; confidence certain because node's delivery claim for same tuple is certain and adjudicated.
20 February 1964
estimated · probable
Reasoning
Passages 543687 and 543706 in lecture nid 1768 ('Eternal States') recount the event. Node delivery claim is 1964-02-20 probable from chrome dateline. Told claim is estimated; confidence probable per node's strongest delivery claim for same tuple.
27 October 1969
estimated
Reasoning
Passage 544820 in lecture nid 1801 recounts the event. Node 1801 delivery date is 1969-10-27 (L7 adjudication #2363 verdict certain). Told claim is estimated; confidence certain per node's delivery claim for same tuple.
after 6 December 1933
estimated · doubtful
Why
No exact delivery date exists for this ASR-derived lecture; the told claim is an open-ended after-bound, not a single day.
Reasoning
Passage 556356 is Neville himself recounting, in first person, receiving an unsolicited letter from his brother Victor enclosing money and a paid passage to Barbados for Christmas; this is the telling. The lecture containing it, nid 3963, carries no exact delivery date, only a certain bound (after 6 December 1933). The telling can be pinned no tighter and inherits that same bound and confidence.
30 January 1969
stated · refuted
26 May 1969
stated · refuted
Reasoning
|| v1.1/l7/told-close: the delivery claim this was derived from (nid 1928, 1969-5-26) was refuted by the L7 adjudication (#2363). The corrected told claim from the same lecture stands at 1971-6-4. This row is retired rather than deleted so the derivation history remains readable.
Sources
Source
- The Finances Of Neville Goddard What He Charged For Lectures And Why He Never Charged For Private Interviews ¶48 (Victor sent him a steamship ticket for his Christmas trip back to Barbados, along with $50)
- The One Greater Than John ¶8 (On the morning of the 4th of December a letter came to my door, stuck under the door, from my brother giving reasons why he wanted me to come to Barbados, and enclosing in that letter a ticket for Barbados.)
- The Creator ¶6 (Desiring to visit my family in Barbados, I slept in New York City as though I were in Barbados and thought of New York City as 2,000 miles to the north. Then I received a letter from my brother justifying the trip and enclosing a draft to cover my person…)
- Eternal States ¶4 (I desired to go to Barbados, and I simply confided, I confessed to my friend Abdullah. As I confessed my limitations, my lack, everything, I was right down at the water’s edge and showing him this wide stream that was Jordan, and telling him of a land be…)
- Eternal States ¶23 (Then one word he did add, he said, “You are in Barbados and you went first class.”)
- Invisible God Behind Made Biblethroughneville ¶3 (Then came a letter from my brother giving reasons justifying why I should come to Barbados, and then making it possible by enclosing a draft.)
- I AM the Reality Called Imagination ¶6 (He wrote a letter and justified the contents in this manner: He said, “We are, you know, a large family” – nine brothers and a sister. “We have never been united around our Christmas table at Christmas since we were a family,”)
- Pursue Truth With Ceaseless Questioning ¶3 (I simply assumed that I am on a ship sailing for Barbados, when suddenly after twelve years they were moved to ask me to come, and made it possible to come.)
- I Am All Imagination ¶14 (But on the morning of the 4th or the 3rd of December, I got a letter from my brother Victor. I did not ask him or any member of my family to bring me to Barbados.)