Neville meets his namesake before the boy's birth

Neville says he met his little namesake, Louise and Joseph's son Neville, before the boy was born into this world.
Date (happened)
before 1954
unresolved
  1. before 1954 bound · probable
    Reasoning Passage 550200, inside lecture 'Standing Order' (nid 1962) delivered 1971-04-09 -- independently certain via a chrome byline dateline and a legacy catalog #915 claim -- has Neville say of Louise and Joseph's son, his namesake, 'Neville is my little namesake -- one that I met before he came into this world. He is now 17.' Seventeen years before an April 1971 lecture places the boy's birth in 1953 or 1954 depending on his exact birthday; taking the later, safer bound, the pre-birth meeting this event describes happened before 1954.
  2. before 10 November 1953 bound · probable
    Why M7 dating pass (529; 525's readers, packet 001)
    Reasoning Passage 550200 'He is now 17' on 1971-04-09; born 10 November (architect's note) gives 1953-11-10, consistent with The Riddle's thirteen (1967-03) and fifteen (1969-04); the 1945 Berle-interview year does not fit any of the three tellings.
  3. before 1971 bound · possible
    Source Standing Order ¶29qualifying source passages 550200; telling lecture nids 1962
    Reasoning Qualifying passage ids [550200] belong to telling lecture nids [1962]. Each listed lecture contributes the selected safe envelope year 1971 (MAX of its non-refuted delivery years); 1971 is the MIN across telling lectures.
  4. before 9 April 1971 bound
    Source Standing Ordertelling lecture nid 1962, certain delivery 1971-04-09
    Why Tightens the phase4 L6a envelope from before 1971 to before 1971-04-09.
    Reasoning L6a envelope tightened to the telling day of nid 1962 (certain delivery 1971-04-09); same premise, finer precision. The phase4 L6a bound on this event is `before 1971`, an envelope over delivery YEARS computed without reading text. Its premise is that the fact is true by the time it is told; on that same premise the DAY of the telling is a strictly better upper bound. Nothing is re-decided — the bound is stated to the precision the evidence always supported. The delivery claim for 1971-04-09 on nid 1962 is held at `certain` by the corpus, which is what carries this claim. #2274; the L6a row stands beside this one.
  5. before 9 April 1954 bound · probable
    Source Standing Order ¶29passage 550200: namesake is now seventeen and Neville met him before birth
    Reasoning On the certain 1971-04-09 telling date the boy is seventeen, placing his birth no later than 1954-04-09; Neville explicitly says the meeting preceded birth. Probable confidence reflects ordinary age/birthday ambiguity.
Place
New York City possible
Told / reported
  1. 9 April 1971 estimated · probable
    Reasoning Neville tells this claim about meeting his namesake before the boy's birth within the body of lecture 'Standing Order' (nid 1962, passage 550200), whose delivery date 1971-04-09 is independently established by a chrome byline dateline claim and a legacy catalog #915 claim, both certain. || v1.1 type repair: written as `stated` by run v1.1/l4/actor417/8000-9999-b10, retyped `estimated` — the claim cites node 1962, not a passage, so it is this lane's inference rather than something Neville said in so many words (#2117).
  2. 9 April 1971 stated
    Source Standing OrderStanding Order (nid 1962), telling 1962-9, told 1971-04-09
  3. 9 April 1971 estimated
    Source Standing Ordercertain delivery claim on lecture nid 1962
    Reasoning Catalog and removed byline independently establish lecture nid 1962 on 1971-04-09.
Sources

Source

  • Standing Order ¶29 (Neville is my little namesake – one that I met before he came into this world. He is now 17.)
  • Standing Order ¶29 (Neville is my little namesake – one that I met before he came into this world. He is now 17.)