Neville's spiritual Awakening / 'Birth from Above'

Neville's 'Birth from Above' awakening occurred, and that morning he spoke to a free open meeting of about a thousand people.

Place: Sir Francis Drake Hotel, San Francisco

Person: Neville Goddard

Date (happened)
between 19 July 1959 and 20 July 1959
unresolved
  1. between 19 July 1959 and 20 July 1959 stated · preferred
    Source Eschatology, the Doctrine of the Mind ¶22"on Sunday evening about 11:00 P.M. ... at 4:00 A.M. on Monday morning", told in Eschatology, the Doctrine of the Mind (nid 2032)
  2. 20 July 1959 stated
    Source The Finances Of Neville Goddard What He Charged For Lectures And Why He Never Charged For Private Interviews ¶33"The morning of July the 20th 1959, this is what happened"
  3. between 1955 and 1964 stated
    Source The Promise Fulfilled ¶9"in my 50’s", told in The Promise Fulfilled (nid 1030)
Place
Sir Francis Drake Hotel
Persons
Neville Goddard
David
Told / reported
  1. 1968 stated · probable · preferred
    Source The Finances Of Neville Goddard What He Charged For Lectures And Why He Never Charged For Private Interviews
  2. 8 December 1963 stated
    Source What Is TruthWhat Is Truth (nid 1116), telling 1116-10, told 1963-12-08
  3. 12 May 1964 stated
    Source What Is His NameWhat Is His Name (nid 1165), telling 1165-3, told 1964-05-12
  4. 11 November 1968 stated
    Source Follow Me (nid 1398), telling 1398-6, told 1968-11-11
  5. 11 November 1968 stated
    Source Follow Me (nid 1398), telling 1398-10, told 1968-11-11
  6. 14 November 1969 stated
    Source Experience the Mystery of ChristExperience the Mystery of Christ (nid 1501), telling 1501-5, told 1969-11-14
  7. 27 April 1965 stated
    Source Creative MomentsCreative Moments (nid 1789), telling 1789-7, told 1965-04-27
  8. 13 October 1969 stated
    Source The State of Paul: The Free ManThe State of Paul: The Free Man (nid 1795), telling 1795-1, told 1969-10-13
Show all 25 claims
  1. 13 December 1963 stated
    Source Where Are You FromWhere Are You From (nid 1798), telling 1798-0, told 1963-12-13
  2. 23 March 1965 stated
    Source God Is Christ, ReconcilingGod Is Christ, Reconciling (nid 1864), telling 1864-3, told 1965-03-23
  3. 20 January 1969 stated
    Source Eschatology, the Doctrine of the MindEschatology, the Doctrine of the Mind (nid 2032), telling 2032-2, told 1969-01-20
  4. 23 July 1968 estimated
    Source The Power and the Wisdomnid 1050 surviving delivery claim after refutation. All claims: 1958-11-3 refuted; 1968-7-23 certain; 1968-10-15 refuted; 1968-7-23 certain (preferred); 1968-7-23 certain
    Why Lane L7 (#2354) re-derivation. Supersedes in substance, not in storage, the refuted-date told claim(s) on this event; those rows stand per append-only.
    Reasoning Re-derived, not walked down. The existing told claim(s) on this event took their date from a delivery claim on node 1050 that the corpus has since REFUTED, so the corpus was asserting that Neville told this on a day it separately says he did not lecture. That is a contradiction rather than an over-confidence, and lowering the confidence would have hidden it instead of resolving it. The refutation stands and the told claim is the wrong side of it. Node 1050 surviving (non-refuted) claim: 1968-7-23 at `certain`. All claims on the node: 1958-11-3 refuted; 1968-7-23 certain; 1968-10-15 refuted; 1968-7-23 certain (preferred); 1968-7-23 certain. Superseded here: delta 2: 1968-10-15 at `certain` (run `corpus v1 / phase3b`). The telling is dated by its lecture, so with the refuted date removed from consideration the surviving claim is what the telling inherits, at that claim own confidence and no higher.
  5. 5 April 1963 estimated
    Source Barabbas or Jesusnid 1094 surviving delivery claim after refutation. All claims: 1963-4-5 certain; 1964-3-24 refuted; 1963-4-5 certain (preferred)
    Why Lane L7 (#2354) re-derivation. Supersedes in substance, not in storage, the refuted-date told claim(s) on this event; those rows stand per append-only.
    Reasoning Re-derived, not walked down. The existing told claim(s) on this event took their date from a delivery claim on node 1094 that the corpus has since REFUTED, so the corpus was asserting that Neville told this on a day it separately says he did not lecture. That is a contradiction rather than an over-confidence, and lowering the confidence would have hidden it instead of resolving it. The refutation stands and the told claim is the wrong side of it. Node 1094 surviving (non-refuted) claim: 1963-4-5 at `certain`. All claims on the node: 1963-4-5 certain; 1964-3-24 refuted; 1963-4-5 certain (preferred). Superseded here: delta 3: 1964-03-24 at `certain` (run `corpus v1 / phase3b`). The telling is dated by its lecture, so with the refuted date removed from consideration the surviving claim is what the telling inherits, at that claim own confidence and no higher.
  6. 25 June 1971 estimated · probable
    Source Purpose Revealednid 1134 surviving delivery claim after refutation. All claims: 1964-1-31 refuted; 1971-6-25 probable (preferred)
    Why Lane L7 (#2354) re-derivation. Supersedes in substance, not in storage, the refuted-date told claim(s) on this event; those rows stand per append-only.
    Reasoning Re-derived, not walked down. The existing told claim(s) on this event took their date from a delivery claim on node 1134 that the corpus has since REFUTED, so the corpus was asserting that Neville told this on a day it separately says he did not lecture. That is a contradiction rather than an over-confidence, and lowering the confidence would have hidden it instead of resolving it. The refutation stands and the told claim is the wrong side of it. Node 1134 surviving (non-refuted) claim: 1971-6-25 at `probable`. All claims on the node: 1964-1-31 refuted; 1971-6-25 probable (preferred). Superseded here: delta 6: 1964-01-31 at `certain` (run `corpus v1 / phase3b`) | delta 18: 1964-01-31 at `probable` (run `v1.1/l4/ceiling/c2`). The telling is dated by its lecture, so with the refuted date removed from consideration the surviving claim is what the telling inherits, at that claim own confidence and no higher.
  7. 22 February 1963 estimated
    Source Paul's Autobiographynid 2019 surviving delivery claim after refutation. All claims: 1963-2-22 certain; 1969-6-20 refuted; 1963-2-22 certain (preferred)
    Why Lane L7 (#2354) re-derivation. Supersedes in substance, not in storage, the refuted-date told claim(s) on this event; those rows stand per append-only.
    Reasoning Re-derived, not walked down. The existing told claim(s) on this event took their date from a delivery claim on node 2019 that the corpus has since REFUTED, so the corpus was asserting that Neville told this on a day it separately says he did not lecture. That is a contradiction rather than an over-confidence, and lowering the confidence would have hidden it instead of resolving it. The refutation stands and the told claim is the wrong side of it. Node 2019 surviving (non-refuted) claim: 1963-2-22 at `certain`. All claims on the node: 1963-2-22 certain; 1969-6-20 refuted; 1963-2-22 certain (preferred). Superseded here: delta 15: 1969-06-20 at `certain` (run `corpus v1 / phase3b`). The telling is dated by its lecture, so with the refuted date removed from consideration the surviving claim is what the telling inherits, at that claim own confidence and no higher.
  8. after 20 July 1971 estimated · probable
    Source The Promise Fulfillednid 1030 surviving delivery claim after refutation. All claims: 1957-??-?? refuted; 1971-7-20 probable (preferred)
    Why Lane L7 (#2354) re-derivation. Supersedes in substance, not in storage, the refuted-date told claim(s) on this event; those rows stand per append-only.
    Reasoning Re-derived, not walked down. The existing told claim(s) on this event took their date from a delivery claim on node 1030 that the corpus has since REFUTED, so the corpus was asserting that Neville told this on a day it separately says he did not lecture. That is a contradiction rather than an over-confidence, and lowering the confidence would have hidden it instead of resolving it. The refutation stands and the told claim is the wrong side of it. Node 1030 surviving (non-refuted) claim: 1971-7-20 at `probable`. All claims on the node: 1957-??-?? refuted; 1971-7-20 probable (preferred). Superseded here: delta 1: 1957-00-00 at `certain` (run `corpus v1 / phase3b`) | delta 17: 1957-00-00 at `probable` (run `v1.1/l4/ceiling/c2`). The telling is dated by its lecture, so with the refuted date removed from consideration the surviving claim is what the telling inherits, at that claim own confidence and no higher.
  9. 22 March 1971 estimated · probable
    Source The Law: Your Choice and Risknid 1125 surviving delivery claim after refutation. All claims: 1964-1-13 refuted; 1967-2-10 refuted; 1971-3-22 probable; 1971-??-?? certain (preferred)
    Why Lane L7 (#2354) re-derivation. Supersedes in substance, not in storage, the refuted-date told claim(s) on this event; those rows stand per append-only.
    Reasoning Re-derived, not walked down. The existing told claim(s) on this event took their date from a delivery claim on node 1125 that the corpus has since REFUTED, so the corpus was asserting that Neville told this on a day it separately says he did not lecture. That is a contradiction rather than an over-confidence, and lowering the confidence would have hidden it instead of resolving it. The refutation stands and the told claim is the wrong side of it. Node 1125 surviving (non-refuted) claim: 1971-3-22 at `probable`. All claims on the node: 1964-1-13 refuted; 1967-2-10 refuted; 1971-3-22 probable; 1971-??-?? certain (preferred). Superseded here: delta 5: 1967-02-10 at `certain` (run `corpus v1 / phase3b`). The telling is dated by its lecture, so with the refuted date removed from consideration the surviving claim is what the telling inherits, at that claim own confidence and no higher.
  10. 1957 stated · refuted
    Source The Promise FulfilledThe Promise Fulfilled (nid 1030), telling 1030-0, told 1957
    Reasoning || v1.1/l7/told-close: the delivery claim this was derived from (nid 1030, 1957--) was refuted by the L7 adjudication (#2363). The corrected told claim from the same lecture stands at 1971-7-20. This row is retired rather than deleted so the derivation history remains readable.
  11. 15 October 1968 stated · refuted
    Source The Power and the WisdomThe Power and the Wisdom (nid 1050), telling 1050-0, told 1968-10-15
    Reasoning || v1.1/l7/told-close: the delivery claim this was derived from (nid 1050, 1968-10-15) was refuted by the L7 adjudication (#2363). The corrected told claim from the same lecture stands at 1968-7-23. This row is retired rather than deleted so the derivation history remains readable.
  12. 24 March 1964 stated · refuted
    Source Barabbas or JesusBarabbas or Jesus (nid 1094), telling 1094-5, told 1964-03-24
    Reasoning || v1.1/l7/told-close: the delivery claim this was derived from (nid 1094, 1964-3-24) was refuted by the L7 adjudication (#2363). The corrected told claim from the same lecture stands at 1963-4-5. This row is retired rather than deleted so the derivation history remains readable.
  13. 10 February 1967 stated · refuted
    Source The Law: Your Choice and RiskIf Any Two Agree (nid 1125), telling 1125-3, told 1967-02-10
    Reasoning || v1.1/l7/told-close: the delivery claim this was derived from (nid 1125, 1967-2-10) was refuted by the L7 adjudication (#2363). The corrected told claim from the same lecture stands at 1971-3-22. This row is retired rather than deleted so the derivation history remains readable.
  14. 31 January 1964 stated · refuted
    Source Purpose RevealedPurpose Revealed (nid 1134), telling 1134-0, told 1964-01-31
    Reasoning || v1.1/l7/told-close: the delivery claim this was derived from (nid 1134, 1964-1-31) was refuted by the L7 adjudication (#2363). The corrected told claim from the same lecture stands at 1971-6-25. This row is retired rather than deleted so the derivation history remains readable.
  15. 20 June 1969 stated · refuted
    Source Paul's AutobiographyPaul's Autobiography (nid 2019), telling 2019-5, told 1969-06-20
    Reasoning || v1.1/l7/told-close: the delivery claim this was derived from (nid 2019, 1969-6-20) was refuted by the L7 adjudication (#2363). The corrected told claim from the same lecture stands at 1963-2-22. This row is retired rather than deleted so the derivation history remains readable.
  16. 1957 stated · refuted
    Source The Promise FulfilledThe Promise Fulfilled (nid 1030), telling 1030-0, told 1957
    Why Corrects the confidence of the told claim written by run `corpus v1 / phase3b` at delta 1 on this event; that claim is left standing per append-only. Ceiling rule #2132.
    Reasoning Confidence only; the date is not re-adjudicated and is left exactly as written. This claim is derived from the delivery claims of node 1030 and asserts `certain`, but the strongest claim that node carries is `probable`, so there is nothing for `certain` to inherit from. nid 1030 delivery claims: 1957-??-?? doubtful; 1971-7-20 probable. Walked back to `probable`, the ceiling. Whether the DATE is right is a separate question this row does not touch; if the evidence turns out to support more confidence, it will have to come from a source other than this node. || v1.1/l7/told-close: the delivery claim this was derived from (nid 1030, 1957--) was refuted by the L7 adjudication (#2363). The corrected told claim from the same lecture stands at 1971-7-20. This row is retired rather than deleted so the derivation history remains readable.
  17. 31 January 1964 stated · refuted
    Source Purpose RevealedPurpose Revealed (nid 1134), telling 1134-0, told 1964-01-31
    Why Corrects the confidence of the told claim written by run `corpus v1 / phase3b` at delta 6 on this event; that claim is left standing per append-only. Ceiling rule #2132.
    Reasoning Confidence only; the date is not re-adjudicated and is left exactly as written. This claim is derived from the delivery claims of node 1134 and asserts `certain`, but the strongest claim that node carries is `probable`, so there is nothing for `certain` to inherit from. nid 1134 delivery claims: 1964-1-31 doubtful; 1971-6-25 probable. Walked back to `probable`, the ceiling. Whether the DATE is right is a separate question this row does not touch; if the evidence turns out to support more confidence, it will have to come from a source other than this node. || v1.1/l7/told-close: the delivery claim this was derived from (nid 1134, 1964-1-31) was refuted by the L7 adjudication (#2363). The corrected told claim from the same lecture stands at 1971-6-25. This row is retired rather than deleted so the derivation history remains readable.
Sources

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  • The Finances Of Neville Goddard What He Charged For Lectures And Why He Never Charged For Private Interviews ¶33 (The morning of July the 20th 1959, this is what happened)
  • The Promise Fulfilled ¶9 (I was only in my 50’s when it happened, and still could have sired a child, but I had been coming through the tribulations for thousands of years.)
  • The Power and the Wisdom ¶3 (When you read it, it doesn’t make sense, but I tell you from my own personal experience, having practiced the art of repentance and having experienced the birth from above with the little child, I know exactly what the prophet meant when he was inspired …)
  • Barabbas or Jesus ¶48 (So, I am proud to say I am a Jew because I am a Christian. I have been born from above. I could not possibly be, unless I were a Jew.)
  • What Is Truth ¶48 (And so, I tell you now having experienced the birth from above before you have it, because I know I’ve had it.)
  • The Law: Your Choice and Risk ¶5 (I have had the experience of which he speaks, the experience of the resurrection and the birth from above, the experience of the discovery of the Fatherhood of God, the experience of the ascent into the heavenly sphere; and can you hear with me that?)
  • Purpose Revealed ¶12 (My brother Lawrence was the most disturbed; and he rose and started towards the same direction that I started. He hadn’t gone more than a step when something attracted his attention, and he looked down on the floor, and he announced to my other two broth…)
  • What Is His Name ¶9 (Well, he did rise in me; and he rose in me and he loosened the womb, of that womb that was really a tomb; and then he came out of that womb.)
  • Experience the Mystery of Christ ¶26 (I am telling you I have awakened from the dream of life. I have been born from above and the only one who is born from above is God.)
  • Jesus Christ: Your Creative Power ¶5 (Now follow me…I have experienced that birth. Man must hear it and it is better if he heard it from one who has experienced it. Others who can hear it and believe it, yes, but they can only speak from hearsay. I speak not from hearsay; I speak from experi…)
  • Creative Moments ¶15 (If these same scholars who wrote this would accept my experience, they would have no problem. For I have had the experience of the two children.)
  • The State of Paul: The Free Man ¶20 (I felt myself waking from a sleep. You mean you were waking from a sleep? Yes, something unlike any other sleep I’ve ever had. I began to wake from a sleep, and to find myself in a holy sepulcher, and it was my skull.)
  • Where Are You From ¶4 (I can’t quite remember the moment of my physical birth. I vividly remember the moment of my spiritual birth.)
  • God Is Christ, Reconciling ¶31 (When I least expected it he came like a thief in the night and awoke me from a long, long slumber, which, undoubtedly, was a horrible dream; for we all had to dream the same dream and the dream is the dream of horror. Then he awoke me in my skull, which …)
  • All Dreams Proceed From God ¶4 (It was a vibration, it was a storm, a terrific wind, all centered in my head and still coming seemingly from without. I found myself waking within the sepulcher and the sepulcher was my own skull, where it was in my own skull that I fell asleep.)
  • Paul's Autobiography ¶37 (All of a sudden the birth from above took place and everything as described in the Gospels, even to the story of the dove. That I never conceived to be an actual fact, and then it happened in the depths of my soul.)
  • Eschatology, the Doctrine of the Mind ¶22 (I went to bed on Sunday evening about 11:00 P.M. and awoke, was born from above, and resurrected at 4:00 A.M. on Monday morning.)