Neville gives overflow Sunday lectures at Fox Wilshire

Date (happened)
c. 1954
probable
  1. c. 1954 conclusion · probable
    Why dc1-agreement-20261004, pm-actor-551 (PM 8702)
    Reasoning All 2 claims agree on c. 1954: passage:556391; passage:531998.
  2. c. 1954 estimated · probable · preferred
    Source God's Timeless Purpose ¶21passage 556391 (lecture nid 3974, 'God's Timeless Purpose'): 'it goes back quite a few years before 1959, I would say four or five years ... talking to an audience of 2,600 on Sunday mornings ... at the Fox Wilshire.'
    Why Confirms prior npr:60282's 'circa 1954-1955, not one recoverable delivery' assessment; recorded here as an actual field_date range.
    Reasoning Neville dates the recurring overflow Sunday-morning Fox Wilshire lectures himself, placing them four or five years before 1959 — i.e. 1954 or 1955. This is when the described lecture period happened, distinct from the 1970 lecture in which he retells it.
  3. between 1954 and 1955 estimated · probable
    Source passage 531998 (lecture nid 1170), 'it goes back quite a few years before 1959 -- I would say, four or five years... I was talking to an audience of twenty-six hundred on Sunday mornings and turning away over fifteen hundred at the Fox-Wilshire'
    Reasoning Neville states this Fox-Wilshire Sunday engagement was four or five years before 1959, giving 1954-1955. This matches two prior L1 findings (npr:23286, npr:27683) already on this event, which independently concluded it is a separate 1954-1955 engagement rather than any of node 1170's own dated deliveries.
Persons
Told / reported
  1. c. 1970 estimated · doubtful
    Source God's Timeless Purposedelivery claim on lecture nid 3974 ('God's Timeless Purpose'), circa 1970, confidence possible, derived from an 11-years-earlier vision anchor
    Reasoning The lecture carrying this telling (nid 3974) is itself dated only circa 1970 by a weak, possible-confidence derived claim with no candidate month/day; per the inheritance rule this told claim is capped at that same confidence.
  2. between 29 May 1964 and 19 April 1971 bound · doubtful
    Source lecture nid 1170 carries three conflicting delivery claims: [d0] 1964-05-29 (certain, preferred), [d1] 1968-03-11 (certain, preferred), [d2] 1971-04-19 (probable) -- already flagged to L1 for adjudication per the node's own processing note
    Why Not re-flagging to L1 -- the node's own processing note already says the three-way conflict is filed there.
    Reasoning The reminiscence appears in lecture nid 1170, but that node's own delivery date is unresolved among three conflicting claims (two rival certain/preferred claims plus a probable chrome dateline), which its own processing note says is already an open L1 candidate. Recording only a wide bound across all three rather than guessing which occasion this specific telling belongs to. || v1.1/l7/told-lower: lowered `possible` -> `doubtful`. The telling-date 1964-05-29 is refuted on the source lecture (nid 1170) and no live claim on that node supports it, so the corpus can no longer say WHEN this was told. ⛔ The row is KEPT, not retired: it also records THAT nid 1170 tells this event, which is true and checkable from the passages, and retiring it would discard that with the date.
  3. 19 April 1971 estimated · probable
    Source nid 1170 surviving delivery claim after refutation. All claims: 1964-5-29 refuted; 1968-3-11 refuted; 1971-4-19 probable (preferred)
    Why Lane L7 (#2354) re-derivation. Supersedes in substance, not in storage, the refuted-date told claim(s) on this event; those rows stand per append-only.
    Reasoning Re-derived, not walked down. The existing told claim(s) on this event took their date from a delivery claim on node 1170 that the corpus has since REFUTED, so the corpus was asserting that Neville told this on a day it separately says he did not lecture. That is a contradiction rather than an over-confidence, and lowering the confidence would have hidden it instead of resolving it. The refutation stands and the told claim is the wrong side of it. Node 1170 surviving (non-refuted) claim: 1971-4-19 at `probable`. All claims on the node: 1964-5-29 refuted; 1968-3-11 refuted; 1971-4-19 probable (preferred). Superseded here: delta 0: 1964-05-29 at `possible` (run `v1.1/l4/w4`). The telling is dated by its lecture, so with the refuted date removed from consideration the surviving claim is what the telling inherits, at that claim own confidence and no higher.